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Old 03-04-2012, 05:11 PM
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So this lesson basically talks about pentatonics but I'm confused ...

If I play c minor Pentatonic besides the relative major pentatonic ..

Which other minor pentatonic can I play instead of c minor ?

So basically if the groove is in c minor I heard you can also play the f minor pentatonic or g minor pentatonic
No, in part one he demonstrates that you can use the relative major pentatonic (Eb maj) or the major pentatonic of the seventh (Bb). F minor and G minor can work as well, but that's not what was shown in the lesson.
Anyway Scott, cant wait for part 2!
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Old 03-05-2012, 07:19 AM
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So this lesson basically talks about pentatonics but I'm confused ...

If I play c minor Pentatonic besides the relative major pentatonic ..

Which other minor pentatonic can I play instead of c minor ?

So basically if the groove is in c minor I heard you can also play the f minor pentatonic or g minor pentatonic
Scott was saying (if I remember correctly) that you can play the major pentatonic that is ONE whole step down from the static minor harmony. So in this case he was saying you can play the B flat major pentatonic over a C minor harmony. The B flat major pentatonic contains all the same notes as a G minor pentatonic, so yes you can play the G minor pentatonic. It will add a 9th (the "D") as a color tone.

Likewise, if you go TWO whole steps down from C minor, and play the major pentatonic (A flat major pentatonic) this contains all the same notes as the F minor pentatonic. This will add the flat 13th (the "A flat") as a color tone. The tonality will start to go outside the basic minor harmony, but I imagine it will sound pretty cool if you handle it right.

So to answer your question, I'd say, yes you can play the G minor and/or F minor pentatonics over a C minor harmony, if you want to.

Essentially, if you have a groove in some minor pentatonic, play the minor pentatonic on the same fret, but one string lower (lower pitch) and you will add a 9th. If you play the minor pentatonic from the same fret but one string higher, you will add a flat 13th. Of course it may not be practical to just go up or down one string, but you will need to move on the fretboard to find the correct note in a spot where you have room to work.

Somebody check my logic for me here. Thanks

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Old 03-07-2012, 01:07 PM
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Yeah... bang on!

So over a Cm7 you can use...
  • Eb major pentatonic - which is the same as C minor pentatonic
  • Bb major pentatonic - which is the same as G minor pentatonic
If the Minor chord is derived from a minor mode that has a b13 you can use...
  • Ab major pentatonic - which is the same as F minor pentatonic
If the Minor chord is derived from the Dorian mode (natural 13th) you can use...
  • F major pentatonic - which is the same as D minor pentatonic.

So remember why you're using the different pentatonics... to access different extensions like the 9th's and 13ths. Obviously you can use regular scales to access these extensions, but using pentatonics like this gives it a slightly different vibe because of the more ambiguous nature of the scale... very Gary Willis I suppose!

Yikes... that's a lot of pentatonic you can use lol

Part two of this tutorial is on its way! It's over 20 minutes long so there's a lot of info to take in. I just need to get it edited and then I'll upload it.

Glad to see you're all shedding the pentatonics!

See ya soon,

Scott.
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Old 03-24-2012, 05:58 PM
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Part two of this tutorial is on its way! It's over 20 minutes long so there's a lot of info to take in. I just need to get it edited and then I'll upload it.
Looking forward to it.
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Old 04-30-2012, 05:49 AM
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Hey guys just did part 2 of this lesson... I've started a new thread about it to keep things nice and organized... so...

Hit the link and check it out!

THE LINK - The Gary Willis Approach (lesson 2) - Lesson with Scott Devine

Cheers,

Scott
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