Getting more Mileage out of Common progressions..

[cire113]

Well guys something cool i was messing around with was messing around with "modes of a progression" I can't believe how different a progression can sound just by the note you start and end on.. This has really increased my vocabulary with progressions and playing them differently.. Heres a example check this out..

Play C G A F - Ok sounds cool let it bet, no woman no cry,

Now play G A F C- sounds cool and different

Now A F C G- textbook chili pepers progression sounds great

now F C G A- sounds bit different as well

So i don't know if this is common sense but its kinda cool how you can get a lot of different stuff from just 1 cookie cutter chord change... same notes and order but sounds like a different progression

[FretlessMainly]

I have to say that your post is very confusing. You use the word "progression," which is typically reserved for chords, not notes. So is "C G A F" a chord progression or a series of notes? If chords, what kind of chords are they? All Major? Then you say "same notes and order but sounds like a different progression," but...they're not the same order.

[bassinplace]

Originally Posted by FretlessMainly

I have to say that your post is very confusing. You use the word "progression," which is typically reserved for chords, not notes. So is "C G A F" a chord progression or a series of notes? If chords, what kind of chords are they? All Major? Then you say "same notes and order but sounds like a different progression," but...they're not the same order.

I think he's referring to chord tones, not progressions. That's what I gather.

[carlthegroover]

Originally Posted by FretlessMainly

I have to say that your post is very confusing. You use the word "progression," which is typically reserved for chords, not notes. So is "C G A F" a chord progression or a series of notes? If chords, what kind of chords are they? All Major? Then you say "same notes and order but sounds like a different progression," but...they're not the same order.

Maybe the idea is to also play with the types of chords used?

[conttador]

Originally Posted by cire113

Play C G A F - Ok sounds cool let it bet, no woman no cry,

Now play G A F C- sounds cool and different

Now A F C G- textbook chili pepers progression sounds great

now F C G A- sounds bit different as well

So i don't know if this is common sense but its kinda cool how you can get a lot of different stuff from just 1 cookie cutter chord change... same notes and order but sounds like a different progression

Are those notes or chords?

[MalcolmAmos]

Play C G A F - Ok sounds cool let it bet, no woman no cry,
Now play G A F C- sounds cool and different
Now A F C G- textbook chili pepers progression sounds great
now F C G A- sounds bit different as well

C-G-A-F or R-5-6-4 is probably not a chord. So the use of the word chord progression is suspect.

Inversions of the chord notes is what the OP has in mind - IMO. However, C-G-A-F being a chord is suspect. So.....

C-G-A-F or I-V-vi-IV as a progression will sound good as all the chords are within the same key if you get the major, minor and diminished in the correct spot.

But, yes I think the OP has found something that sounds good - but, naming what he is using is up for grabs.

OP -- help us out here.

[Pacman]

Actually, reordering chords within the progression is what the OP was talking about.

[JimK]

Originally Posted by cire113

Play C G A F - no woman no cry,

...somtimes you may see it like this-

C G/B A F

[dvh]

Don't quite get the point. If chords, do they retain the same quality for each progression (major, minor, dominant, etc...)?

Remember, the huge diversity and variance of western music is made from only 12 notes.

[MalcolmAmos]

Originally Posted by dvh

Don't quite get the point. If chords, do they retain the same quality for each progression (major, minor, dominant, etc...)?

Remember, the huge diversity and variance of western music is made from only 12 notes.

My point also. If the "key" stays the same the individual chords remain major or minor or diminished regardless of the order they are used, however, when inverted if you consider that as being a key change - different tonal center - then the chord function would change.

Of course, IMO

[dtiii]

The term progression can refer to anything that moves forward in a logical manner according to functionality. There are harmonic, melodic, contrapuntal and rhythmic progressions in music. The notes above can be thought of as a bass progression, or a root progression when considering the song examples. The OP is experimenting with shifting the starting note of a set sequence of bass notes.

This type of exercise can be fruitful as it may lead to different sounding and usable contexts in the music. For me, when playing each given note two bars of 4, the first two progressions sound like they are in C major and the second two sound like A minor. (This shouldn’t be a surprise considering the metric placement of the C and A in the respective progressions) Play while using the diatonic chord qualities of these keys and also experiment with non-diatonic chord qualities allowing the given notes to function as roots. Then consider the given notes functioning as another member of a chord. For example, in the first progression as the bass moves to G, let the chord progression stay on C major. Mess around with it, although I would think that it would be easier at a keyboard than on a bass. Or, sit with you guitar player… whatever it takes to hear it.

[cire113]

Sorry for the confusion I was just thinking root bass notes but the chords would be in the context of c major I guess ...

My whole point was how basically one cool progressions by starting it on different notes and retaining the same order can make interesting different sounds.. I call it the modes of a progression.. Starting each on a different note same order..

Kinda of the modes of major scale are made..


I was really
Bore playing same progressions so I've been doing this and it's really interesting..

Check out the same exercise for a simpler 3 note progression and how it sounds ... C Ab F. 1 6 4 (correction )

[JimK]

Originally Posted by cire113

Check out the same exercise for a simpler 3 note progression and how it sounds ... C G# F. 1 6 4

?
C to G# is a #5 (raised/augmented 5th)
Count it-
C-D-E-F-G
1-2-3-4-5

C to Ab is a b6
C-D-E-F-G-A
1-2-3-4-5-6