Gm pentatonic scale

[Stick_Player]

Let me help out here...

I'll go out on a limb and suggest that the OP wants to know about only THIS scale ("Can someone plz tell me the notes to the gm pentatonic scale? Thank you."), commonly labeled:

G Minor Pentatonic - G, Bb, C, D, F.

A closely related scale: the Minor Blues scale - G, Bb, C, C#/Db, D, F. Often used over a Dominant-Seventh-Sounding chord - as in a Blues progression.

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Then there is the G Major Pentatonic - G, A, B, D, E.

A closely related scale: the Major Blues scale - G, A, A#/Bb, B, D, E.

Keep it simple. Not necessary to drag in E Minor, etc. I don't think that the OP is ready for all the relative or parallel scale derivatives.

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Also the label: "Pentatonic", can be any 5-notes per octave scale.

[shwashwa]

Originally Posted by MarkMgibson

You're confusing scales with keys. A "G minor pentatonic scale" is the same scale, no matter what key you're playing it in. Playing an E minor pentatonic scale in the key of G (as you suggested), would in fact be a major pentatonic scale (close enough), but it would a G Major pentatonic scale (since you insist on phrasing this way). The OP asked for the notes of a scale, the key is irrelevant.

i agree, but you told him to phrase it, "what is a minor pentatonic in G?" to me, and im sure to most people, when you say "in G" that means the key of G major. if you had said "on G" or "on the root note G" that would have been different. it seems you are the one confusing keys and scales when you say "in G". the point is, when you say it that way now i need to start asking other questions to clarify what you actually mean, so the OP's way of asking it was actually clearest most simple way.

and the only reason im bringing ANY of this up is not to bust your balls for being lazy with your language, but because the OP is obviously a beginner and needs to know these things because at his point alot of conflicting information can be confusing, so when you tell him to ask the question in a more simple way, and then present a way to him that is actually more ambigious, that may be confusing to him when in fact he asked the question in the simplest and most correct way i can ever imagine. you want to know the notes of the gm pentatonic? well just ask. (remember gm is standard notation for g minor, at least around my area it is)

[shwashwa]

i wasnt addressing the OP when i brought up E minor. look at my first reply, it is the simplest in the thread so far and answered his question directly

Originally Posted by Stick_Player

Let me help out here...

I'll go out on a limb and suggest that the OP wants to know about only THIS scale ("Can someone plz tell me the notes to the gm pentatonic scale? Thank you."), commonly labeled:

G Minor Pentatonic - G, Bb, C, D, F.

A closely related scale: the Minor Blues scale - G, Bb, C, C#/Db, D, F. Often used over a Dominant-Seventh-Sounding chord - as in a Blues progression.

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Then there is the G Major Pentatonic - G, A, B, D, E.

A closely related scale: the Major Blues scale - G, A, A#/Bb, B, D, E.

Keep it simple. Not necessary to drag in E Minor, etc. I don't think that the OP is ready for all the relative or parallel scale derivatives.

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Also the label: "Pentatonic", can be any 5-notes per octave scale.

[Stick_Player]

Originally Posted by shwashwa

i wasnt addressing the OP when i brought up E minor. look at my first reply, it is the simplest in the thread so far and answered his question directly

Settle down there, Mr. Music Theory.

[shwashwa]

Originally Posted by Stick_Player

Settle down there, Mr. Music Theory.

just trying to help i kid out by not confusing him with misinformation. the stuff he learns early on is very important and will be what he builds on for the rest of his life, may as well give him correct info

[Russell L]

Originally Posted by PilbaraBass

1 b3 4 5 7

G Bb C D F

I'm sure you mean b7 for that F.

[Russell L]

Simply, a G natural minor scale (G A Bb C D Eb F) is the relative minor scale in the key of Bb. Does that help anyone here? Take five notes from it and you have the G Bb C D F pentatonic scale mentioned above.

[Clef_de_fa]

I should avoid thread like this because you will always have 85% false answers, 5% correct answers and 10% of over the top explication that the 5% got covered in less than a second.

[MarkMgibson]

Originally Posted by shwashwa

just trying to help i kid out by not confusing him with misinformation. the stuff he learns early on is very important and will be what he builds on for the rest of his life, may as well give him correct info

Then you're failing. A scale in G is a scale in G, whether it's major, minor, pentatonic, blues, etc. The key of the song makes no difference either: the scale remains the same.

[shwashwa]

Originally Posted by MarkMgibson

I'm not being picky, but better if you ask "What are the notes for the Minor Pentatonic scale in the key of G?". Much less confusion that way.

ok buddy, i wish i could multiple quote but i dont know how, but the above are you exact words. you are the one who first introduced the concept of a KEY into this thread when the question was about a scale not a key, then you criticize someone for bringing up KEY when you in fact are the one who brought it up, and provided misinformation to the op. what you write up there is very confusing. i know you probably meant to write what is the minor pentatonic scale in the key of G MINOR, but you did not write that, so i can only address what you wrote and not what i think you meant to write. even if you did write G Minor, well there are 3 minor pentatonic scales in that key, and as you have already mentioned, why the heck are you bringing up KEY anyway? the kid wanted to know the g minor pentatonic scale. how frigging complicated is that? you tell him its much more clear if he asks what is the minor pentatonic scale in the key of G MAJOR? probably not what you intended, but that is indeed what you asked, and to some kid who is just learning this stuff you could be sending his head spinning. the minor pentatonic in the key of G MAJOR (as you have instructed him to ask) is either e minor, a minor or b minor. your way of prasing it is clearly more confusing, yet you criticize him for asking a simple and direct question and you provide misinformation. there is no G minor pentatonic in the key of G. period. you write capital G that means G major in 99.99% of the musical universe and the origional poster is clearly familiar with this naming convention as proven by the fact that he notates with a lower case g and a lower case m. im not trying to call you out, but if you are going to keep teaching things that are just incorrect then i will have to correct it for the record so that the origional poster (and any other newbie) doesnt leave here more confused than he started. one thing i will agree with you on, you should have never brought up the concept of key in the first place and you clearly have confused key with scale... im done wasting my time on this thread. i hope the origional poster can sift through all the ******** and incorrect replies in here and actually learn something and grow. anyone has questions as to whether or not i know my theory feel free just click the links in my signature and listen to any of 5 or 6 of my compositions and improvised bass solos.

i remember what it was like to be in the shoes of the OP and just figuring this stuff out, and i want to make his road easier, not harder

[shwashwa]

Originally Posted by Pacman

And incorrectly.


PilbaraBass answered it both directly and correctly.

ARE YOU FRIGGING SERIOUS??????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU'RE A MOD? NEITHER ONE OF PILBARABASS' ANSWERS ARE CORRECT. THERE ARE MISTAKES IN BOTH!!!!! THEY BOTH HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED IN THIS THREAD AND HE HAS ACKNOWLEDGED THEM.

im not trying to be a hard ass here, but right is right and wrong is wrong and if you are going to try to teach younger generation, please be responsible and pass on correct information. did i really even need to say that??

[Pacman]

Originally Posted by shwashwa

ARE YOU FRIGGING SERIOUS??????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU'RE A MOD? NEITHER ONE OF PILBARABASS' ANSWERS ARE CORRECT. THERE ARE MISTAKES IN BOTH!!!!! THEY BOTH HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED IN THIS THREAD AND HE HAS ACKNOWLEDGED THEM.

im not trying to be a hard ass here, but right is right and wrong is wrong and if you are going to try to teach younger generation, please be responsible and pass on correct information. did i really even need to say that??

Take a step back, hoss. I missed the first part of your first reply on my initial read. You did indeed correctly answer the question. Which is why I deleted my reply.

However, you're getting really close to the edge of rules here. Take a deep breath, and watch how you address other members.

[shwashwa]

Originally Posted by Pacman

Take a step back, hoss. I missed the first part of your first reply on my initial read. You did indeed correctly answer the question. Which is why I deleted my reply.

However, you're getting really close to the edge of rules here. Take a deep breath, and watch how you address other members.

sorry, perpetuation myths and fallacies on a site and in a thread that is supposed to help clear them up kind of upsets me, especially when the answer is so damn simple. if you're going to teach, you have the responsibility to teach correct info. im sorry if i actually care about passing on my knowledge to future generations

[Febs]

Originally Posted by MarkMgibson

Then you're failing. A scale in G is a scale in G, whether it's major, minor, pentatonic, blues, etc. The key of the song makes no difference either: the scale remains the same.

Perhaps there is a cultural difference at play here, but in my experience, when something is referrred to as being "in G," it is generally understood that that means that it is "in the key of G," and specifically, in the key of G Major.

Scales are generally referred to by their tonic note and type, e.g., G major, G harmonic minor, etc. In my experience, the phrase "G minor pentatonic" is commonly understood to mean a minor pentatonic scale starting on a G, and by far the most commonly used G minor pentatonic scale is G Bb C D F. I am happy to be corrected with references if I am wrong, but I don't think that I have ever seen the use of the phrase "in G" where the G refers to the tonic note of a scale, rather than a key. Thus, I tend to agree with swashwa that referring to it that way causes more confusion than it solves.

[shwashwa]

Originally Posted by Febs

Perhaps there is a cultural difference at play here, but in my experience, when something is referrred to as being "in G," it is generally understood that that means that it is "in the key of G," and specifically, in the key of G Major.

Scales are generally referred to by their tonic note and type, e.g., G major, G harmonic minor, etc. In my experience, the phrase "G minor pentatonic" is commonly understood to mean a minor pentatonic scale starting on a G, and by far the most commonly used G minor pentatonic scale is G Bb C D F. I am happy to be corrected with references if I am wrong, but I don't think that I have ever seen the use of the phrase "in G" where the G refers to the tonic note of a scale, rather than a key. Thus, I tend to agree with swashwa that referring to it that way causes more confusion than it solves.

not to mention that he actually uses the words "in the key of G" in his first post. nothing ambigious about that. but i promise, im done here. got other things to do. i just hate to see a youngster confused when he comes here for clarity

[MarkMgibson]

Originally Posted by shwashwa

ok buddy, i wish i could multiple quote but i dont know how, but the above are you exact words. you are the one who first introduced the concept of a KEY into this thread when the question was about a scale not a key, then you criticize someone for bringing up KEY when you in fact are the one who brought it up, and provided misinformation to the op. what you write up there is very confusing. i know you probably meant to write what is the minor pentatonic scale in the key of G MINOR, but you did not write that, so i can only address what you wrote and not what i think you meant to write. even if you did write G Minor, well there are 3 minor pentatonic scales in that key, and as you have already mentioned, why the heck are you bringing up KEY anyway? the kid wanted to know the g minor pentatonic scale. how frigging complicated is that? you tell him its much more clear if he asks what is the minor pentatonic scale in the key of G MAJOR? probably not what you intended, but that is indeed what you asked, and to some kid who is just learning this stuff you could be sending his head spinning. the minor pentatonic in the key of G MAJOR (as you have instructed him to ask) is either e minor, a minor or b minor. your way of prasing it is clearly more confusing, yet you criticize him for asking a simple and direct question and you provide misinformation. there is no G minor pentatonic in the key of G. period. you write capital G that means G major in 99.99% of the musical universe and the origional poster is clearly familiar with this naming convention as proven by the fact that he notates with a lower case g and a lower case m. im not trying to call you out, but if you are going to keep teaching things that are just incorrect then i will have to correct it for the record so that the origional poster (and any other newbie) doesnt leave here more confused than he started. one thing i will agree with you on, you should have never brought up the concept of key in the first place and you clearly have confused key with scale... im done wasting my time on this thread. i hope the origional poster can sift through all the ******** and incorrect replies in here and actually learn something and grow. anyone has questions as to whether or not i know my theory feel free just click the links in my signature and listen to any of 5 or 6 of my compositions and improvised bass solos.

i remember what it was like to be in the shoes of the OP and just figuring this stuff out, and i want to make his road easier, not harder

True, I should have said "the notes of the minor pentatonic scale in G.

My point was the way the question was written: gm pentatonic scale - that infers a Gm key signature, which was probably why the post got many different answers.

As for you self-proclaimed theory expertise: You should be aware that many members here have been playing music for decades.

[shwashwa]

if you thought this thread was hot stay tuned tomorrow when i ask what are the notes in Db- pent!

[BobaFret]

I had it all figured out until I read this thread. Now it seems so confusing.

[jamminology101]

Personally I like the old 1-2-4-5-b7 pentatonic scale cuz it not only fits well with minor chords but with the more funky sounding dominant 7th chords as well and can even shift it to the minors relative major for some more flava'....and the 2 frets between each note all the way across the strings to octave makes for some easy and quick licks and is probably one of the first licks we bassist learned when starting out.

[shwashwa]

Originally Posted by MarkMgibson

As for you self-proclaimed theory expertise: You should be aware that many members here have been playing music for decades.

yes, and i am one of them (hell ive been a member here for 10 years, was playing bass long before that), although i know i look young and hansome in my picture on my site... :-) not so young anymore (still hansome)