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Old 07-16-2006, 10:19 AM
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I have been playing bass for a couple of years now and I LOVE Stuart Zender's bass playing with Jamiroquai. Recently I set my self some homework of learning the bass parts on the 'Emergency on Planet Earth' CD.

However!!!

I am stuggling to really swing and GROOVE like he does. Does anybody have any tips, is it just a matter of being methodical and slow (40bpm) an correcting my mistakes one by one????

Whats the best way of approaching this task?

Any Tips???
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Old 07-16-2006, 12:08 PM
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I just heard them for the first time last night. I saw Napoleon Dynamite the other day and heard that song he dances to at the end and I decided to figure it out. Nice stuff.

I've always thought that it's sort of impossible to "groove" like someone else. So my advice would be figure out all the notes and then make it groove and play it naturally with feeling. Your groove won't sound exactly like his, of course, but it'll still be cool because it's your own thing. I hope that made sense. Good luck.
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Old 07-16-2006, 01:07 PM
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Well, Stuart is one of my favourite ones... he knows what, how and when to play without being one of those that like being in the spotlight all time... I think he interpretes my ideal of what a bassist should be... anyhow... if you're looking for some good music sheet check this out:

www.simonmerrick.co.uk

I got the Volume I (volume II on the way) and it's a very detailed and apparently faithfull transcript... Stuart was using a lof of fillers and I think that Simone has done a good job.

PS: Many says that Nick Fyffe didn't hold a good groove, but I still liked it , not as much as Stuart though. If you liked him , then check out the Live At Verona DVD... finally the current bassist , Paul Turner I think his name is, he's alse a very fine one. In youtube.com you can find a lot vids with him playing with the jamiroquais ....
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Old 07-16-2006, 03:15 PM
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first off, jamiroquai is my favorite band of today. they are so groovy, funky, and just flat out cool. okay.

to learn to play like zender you need to play along with a lot of funk and r&b albums to get your rhythm down. once you start getting your rhythm elements together, then you can start to groove out and learn the zender stuff.
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Old 07-16-2006, 03:30 PM
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holy crap.

I'm just glad someone on here has paid attention to zenders skills.
I just really got into jamiroquai this year and thought about posting something about them but you beat me to it.

they freakin groove.

i've learned a bunch of his stuff recently. any relatively decent bass player can play this stuff. just practice a bunch and slow it down if you can. but the thing is, its already been done. by a human. so you know its possible to do it again. know what i mean?
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Old 07-16-2006, 04:07 PM
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Awesome band!!! While Fyffe and Paul Turner are underrated, the Zender Years (1993-97) were incredible! When I heard Zender, it sounded like someone who had much more playing experience than someone who just STARTED playing bass 2 years before their debut in 1993. Check their early material out....so funky! I think the transcription books are excellent. The new Jamiroquai 'Stuart Zender Years' Volume 2 will be excellent when it's released next week at http://www.simonmerrick.com

Cheers y'all!
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Old 07-16-2006, 04:38 PM
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if you like jamiroquai, check out the groove collective if you havnt yet, another really groovy dancish band with a killer bass player. not quite as chill to listen to as jamir though. good luck wiht the funk!
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Old 07-17-2006, 11:41 PM
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Zender was born with the magic. Seems like they really crafted most of the songs around his best riffs, insted of the way it's usually done putting in the bass later.

Fyffe and Turner got a similar groove by getting their timing down perfectly by doing years of jazz schooling.
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Old 07-18-2006, 04:50 AM
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Zender is an inspiration in his skills and his tone is just incredibly thick and meaty.
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Old 07-18-2006, 08:01 AM
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Volume II of the Jamiroquai Essential Transcripts is available now ! Check it out..

http://www.simonmerrick.co.uk/publications.html

Regs, Paolo
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Old 07-18-2006, 09:25 AM
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Just bought Volume 2 today! Incredible track listing for this volume.
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Old 07-18-2006, 09:48 AM
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Just bought Volume 2 today! Incredible track listing for this volume.
Just did the same... I'm not even half a way through the Volume I , that is great as well, but couldn't resist in getting the II...

Paolo
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