Help identifying this scale?

[Mr wiggl3s]

In tab form! My bass teacher gave it to me, i don't know what it is (other then scales). Haven't been able to afford lessons, so i can't ask him so... Here goes.

G|------| |---------| |-------|
D|------| |---------| |-------|
A|----2-| |---2-3--| |2-3-5-2|
E|3-5--3| |5------5| |-------|

G|------| |------| |--------|
D|----2-| |-2-4--| |2-4-5-2|
A|3-5--3| |5----5| |--------|
E|-------| |------| |--------|

G|----2-| |-
D|4-5--4| |5

I'm wondering, because this is a monster and i want to break it up/play it backwards/else. Thanks

[Billnc]

G Major, dang I hate tabs, see how much they helped you?

[Mr wiggl3s]

Can't really read music yet, so a little bit. Lol. Thanks man.

[slybass3000]

Man I don't understand tabs. Can you explain please?

Sly

[Billnc]

Originally Posted by slybass3000

Man I don't understand tabs. Can you explain please?

Sly

ferget it! we must bury them! I know from your previous posts you don't need them. Utterly useless.

[slybass3000]

Originally Posted by Billnc

ferget it! we must bury them! I know from your previous posts you don't need them. Utterly useless.

Yes I know ! But I want to understand how people that rely on tabs find their fingerings. Because tabs show you where the notes are but not in a bessistic or musical way.

BTW I'm writing my first book and for the volume one I will include tabs because it is a hands-on on grooves and stuff like that and while writing the exercices I have to edit the tabs to make them like the way it should be played. A lot of editing I should say ;-)

Sly

[MalcolmAmos]

I take you at your word -- you don't understand tabs - all your readers would need is have a fretboard chart handy - look at the tab and then look at a bass fretboard chart. However, if they are using tab I don't think they really care what notes are in play.

Here is the fretboard chart:
http://www.celticguitarmusic.com/basschart.htm
Print this off ---- the drill would go --- now what note is on the 3rd fret of the E string? Yep it's a G, the 5th is an A, the 2 on the A string would be a B note and then the 3 on the E string is another G.

G|------| |---------| |-------|
D|------| |---------| |-------|
A|----2-| |---2-3--| |2-3-5-2|
E|3-5--3| |5------5| |-------|

So your first bar has these notes G-A-B-G the second bar is A-B-C-A and the third bar is B-C-D-B
Or using tab you don't really need to know what notes just play the fret number that is shown on the specific string. IMO those that use tab don't really care what notes they are playing. You were asking about what fingers to use - I don't use tab - can not help but, I do not think most have a finger pattern established. Something for the book.

In your book think about including bass clef, tab and scale degree (R-3-5-3) As a newbie bass player I want to see scale degrees. I ignore tab all together and if a bass clef is available I put the scale degree under the bass clef notes. That's what I work from - listening for the chord changes I rely upon the chord tones for my riff. I am amazed how quickly an acceptable baseline develops using the scale degree approach. Most how to books do not show scale degrees, something to think about. O'h yes, scale degree fingering, the scale takes place over 4 frets and we have 4 fingers of course you already know that -- .

Good luck on the book.

[slybass3000]

Originally Posted by MalcolmAmos

To understand tabs all you need do is look at the tab and then look at a bass fretboard chart.
Here is the fretboard chart:
http://www.celticguitarmusic.com/basschart.htm
Print this off ---- now what note is on the 3rd fret of the E string? Yep it's a G, the 5th is an A, the 2 on the A string would be a B note and then the 3 on the E string is another G.

G|------| |---------| |-------|
D|------| |---------| |-------|
A|----2-| |---2-3--| |2-3-5-2|
E|3-5--3| |5------5| |-------|

So your first bar has these notes G-A-B-G the second bar is A-B-C-A and the third bar is B-C-D-B

Ok, Thanks,
This took me more time to understand then the first I read music I think. So unlogical to me. May be because it is how it is written with a computer keyboard no ? Or it is always like that ?

[slybass3000]

Yeah may be but that second bar in your example is hard to figure in a musical way I found. That is the one that made me sweat :-). My questions are this: how do you figure your fingerings? do you stick to what the tab tells you about where the notes are?

Thanks,

Sly

[Mr wiggl3s]

Tabs just tell you what fret to play and when. Clearly. As noted by the one number on the dashed line.

[MalcolmAmos]

I may have missed it, but, I don't think there is an acceptable fingering pattern for tab, you just grab the fret the best way you can.

[slybass3000]

Ok but when you play the song, do you stick to where the tabs tell you where the notes are or you adapt?

[Mr wiggl3s]

Only if the tabs are wrong. And most of the time they are, so i guess in a way, yes.

[slybass3000]

Originally Posted by Mr wiggl3s

Only if the tabs are wrong. And most of the time they are, so i guess in a way, yes.

Ok because this is what I don't like about tabs, they see a pattern position and suggest you that it it how it is played which is most of the time wrong from my experience with them.

Thanks for the info,

Sly

[onlyclave]

What if you have a tab and no recording of the music? How do you play it then?

Here's my new song. Check it!

G 56 87985 4567658789 76
D 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 4
A 5 5 5 5 5 5
E 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 5 5 5 5 5 4 4 4 5 6 3 4 4 4 4 4 4 4 8 7 7 7 7 8 8 8 9 7 0

Or maybe you could play a few bars of pi for me. I'll get you started:

D 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288


Yeah, that totally rocks and never repeats. For you music historians, tabbed out pi is Through Composed music.

[Billnc]

I get students who learn a song from tabs, fingerings are a mess, since they haven't learned their positions properly. Don't have a cd or ipod with them and look at me like I'm a fool when I say I don't know how the song goes. Sly, you'll sell 40 percent more books with tabs in it. Good luck!

[slybass3000]

Originally Posted by Billnc

I get students who learn a song from tabs, fingerings are a mess, since they haven't learned their positions properly. Don't have a cd or ipod with them and look at me like I'm a fool when I say I don't know how the song goes. Sly, you'll sell 40 percent more books with tabs in it. Good luck!

Thanks, ;-)

My publisher wants to sign me for 4 bass books and one on theory and arranging.

Sly

[Danny Fox]

Originally Posted by slybass3000

Thanks, ;-)

My publisher wants to sign me for 4 bass books and one on theory and arranging.

Sly

Thats cool sly congrats!

[slybass3000]

Originally Posted by Danny Fox

Thats cool sly congrats!

Thank you very much. I'm real excited about this.

Time to back to Finale ;-)

Sly

[Richard Lindsey]

Originally Posted by slybass3000

Thanks, ;-)

My publisher wants to sign me for 4 bass books and one on theory and arranging.

Sly

Very nice! I know whatever you come up with will be solid and helpful to learners. Congratulations.