Help me with one chord please

[phippsyg]

Originally Posted by DocBop

Which is the root? Is it suppose to be some sus chord or minor add 9? Also you have E and F that is going to sound bad. You will probably have to drop a note an unimportant note like the 5th.

An e and f is going to sound bad? Very general to say this I think you might mean together. Voice them an octave apart. You should be able to get the voicing I posted with proper technique. Good luck with it all.

[ExYuBass]

Originally Posted by phippsyg

An e and f is going to sound bad? Very general to say this I think you might mean together. Voice them an octave apart. You should be able to get the voicing I posted with proper technique. Good luck with it all.

Thanks man.

[DocBop]

Originally Posted by phippsyg

An e and f is going to sound bad? Very general to say this I think you might mean together. Voice them an octave apart. You should be able to get the voicing I posted with proper technique. Good luck with it all.

We are talking about chords so the notes are being played together and playing half-steps together need carefull handling or sound bad on bass. I also gave a voicing that made it work, but putting them on the outside string. You may want to slow down a little when reading replies.

[HaVIC5]

If D is the root I look at the chord as a Dmi Add 9. I would leave the A out. That said I just tried it quickly on my bass and first voicing I tried seems okay. 12th fret E, A, D, then F on the G-string tenth fret. That works because it separates the E and F minor 9th as much as possible.

Are you sure that sounds OK to you? Having the 9th in the bass voice is a definite no-no, especially when played on a bass guitar when all the voices are in lower octaves than they would normally be played. This completely obfuscates the real root of the chord which would be D, and makes the whole chord sound like a completely different chord than what you would want it to. What chord you've made there my ear would hear as a 7sus4(b9) because the ear would hear that low E as the root. If you play a simple Dm (add 9) block chord in root position on the piano, it will sound absolutely nothing like what the chord you spelled out sounds like because of how you voiced it.

Plus, the minor 9th interval, in my opinion anyway, becomes even more apparent and glaring when its an octave apart. Putting it in the top voices at least can be used for an effect, but when its not a minor 2nd away, it can be really, really grating to my ear.

[phippsyg]

Originally Posted by DocBop

We are talking about chords so the notes are being played together and playing half-steps together need carefull handling or sound bad on bass. I also gave a voicing that made it work, but putting them on the outside string. You may want to slow down a little when reading replies.

I was responding to the comment that I quoted from you. I read your other reply and it cleared this up. As far as saying we are talking about chords and the notes played together? A d minor chord doesn't mean play d then f then a then c, and he was asking for a voicing which means that it would be obvious to try to seperate the e and f. The whole concept of voicing is to arrange the notes in a manner that is applicable to what you are trying to achieve. Will slow down, I should of read your second comment that cleared this up, but based on what I've just said, you might want to do the same.

[phippsyg]

Realise that post sounds pretty grumpy. (Not the best mood today). Sorry no disrespect. Will slow down with my replies too.

[DocBop]

Originally Posted by phippsyg

Realise that post sounds pretty grumpy. (Not the best mood today). Sorry no disrespect. Will slow down with my replies too.

It's all good we're are just trying to share our viewpoints to the help others. We are all Sensei both teacher and student.

[KayCee]

Originally Posted by Alvaro Martín Gómez A.

Well, if your bass has 24 frets, access to the highest register is comfortable (my second question pointed to that) and you have time to prepare your fingers, you can try this very awkward fingering. It will sound great if you can do it:

- E string, 22nd fret with your ring finger
- A string, 20th fret with your middle finger
- D string, 19th fret with your index
- G string, 21th fret with your pinky

Voilà! A full Dm (add9), which is how your chord is called.

Hope this helps.

+1

...but you could make this less painful by fretting the top three notes with your left hand, and tapping the 22nd fret D with your right hand.

[HaVIC5]

Originally Posted by Alvaro Martín Gómez A.

Well, if your bass has 24 frets, access to the highest register is comfortable (my second question pointed to that) and you have time to prepare your fingers, you can try this very awkward fingering. It will sound great if you can do it:

- E string, 22nd fret with your ring finger
- A string, 20th fret with your middle finger
- D string, 19th fret with your index
- G string, 21th fret with your pinky

Voilà! A full Dm (add9), which is how your chord is called.

Hope this helps.

OOF! Why wouldn't you just fret the D with your pinky and the E with your ring finger? It's more logical that way, and far, far easier.

[KayCee]

Originally Posted by HaVIC5

OOF! Why wouldn't you just fret the D with your pinky and the E with your ring finger? It's more logical that way, and far, far easier.

Makes sense on paper, but I find that fingering very uncomfortable.

[HaVIC5]

Originally Posted by KayCee

Makes sense on paper, but I find that fingering very uncomfortable.

Well, it definitely requires developed finger strength, but to me, it's pretty natural and logical rather than twisting your fingers in over each other.