Help with Sonata Form in Mozart Piece

[Hippos Melas]

Divertiment K. 136, Movement 1: Allegro - Mozart

Long story short: school performance assignment, but part of it is written and I have to identify the parts of sonata form in it (exposition, development, recapitulation) as well as a bunch of other miscellaneous things in the sheet music.

My problem is that I feel like the exposition IS the entire piece. The exhibition is supposed to be the original theme, then it usually shifts to V, then typically ends on V. Well the whole piece starts in D, modulates to A (V), but the V section just repeats itself and then the piece is over. Anyone want to take a listen and help me out?

[Stick_Player]

Well the whole piece starts in D, modulates to A (V), but the V section just repeats itself and then the piece is over.

There's more to it than that.

I hear the 'theme' reappearing about 1/2 way into the 2nd repeated section - at about 3:00 and then again at about 4:55.

The first section (36 measures in length?) repeats. Then the second section begins, but not in the "V" (about 2:10).

That should get you started.

[Rudreax]

Nvm, found it:

http://imslp.org/wiki/Divertimento_i...ang_Amadeus%29

I'll get back to you in a bit, but I suggest listening to the music while following the score.

Another tip: often times, the exposition in a piece ends where the first repeat sign is.

[Rudreax]

Here's something my teacher taught me:

Where there is a repeat sign, that's usually where the exposition ends.

Where there is music that looks/sounds EXTREMELY similar to the exposition, but is not exactly the same, that's usually where the recapitulation begins.

Everything in between is development.

Do you know about the subsections within each sections (Primary theme, Transition, Secondary theme, closing theme)?

[GoesThump]

Haven't listened, but did have a look at the score linked to. It should definitely answer your questions.

I'm not sure if it is bad form to give answers to "homework" questions on TB, so I'll confine my remarks to hints/general advice.

First : some good advice has already appeared in this thread, particularly vis-a-vis the repeats. It was a common practice to repeat the exposition in this period.

Next -give it another listen while reading the score.

A few hints : pay attention to repeats, and cadences / key changes & the answer should appear. Also, have a close look for where the main theme repeats in the tonic key closer to the end of the piece (often about 2/3ds of the way through) - that's where you'll find your recap.

If this doesn't clear it up, come back and try us again tomorrow for a somewhat less vague answer.

GT

[Stick_Player]

More hints: This is one of the so-called "Salzburg Symphonies". Composed during Mozart's Italian hang. The form is 'somewhat' different than the usual forms. You'll first notice there are only three movements (Italian Overture). Also, scored for string orchestra ONLY.

You might not find, so easily, the 'text-book' definition of Sonata Form here, but it's there.

[Hippos Melas]

Thanks for the helpful hints guys! I actually wound up figuring it out but threw the coda part of Sonata form in there just because I thought it belonged there. My teacher corrected me and everything went smoothly from there on out. I appreciate the input!