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08-05-2011, 04:01 AM
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Owner: BassStringsOnline.com | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: LA California | | If you really want to get into Jazz.... well, the walking bass lines side of things... You will also need to pick up "Pocket Changes"
It has the most accurate "changes" in it... great for gigging too...
The Real Book is cool and all, but many of the changes are written as they were played on recordings (with substitutions that not everyone plays), rather than the original changes...
Also, check out some of the Jamie Abersold books... ESPECIALLY the ones with Ron Carter, and Rufus Reid playing the bass lines... They also sell transcription books for the lines on those recordings, and you can tune out the bass on the play along cd's...
Grab the album "Alone Together"... Ron Carter and Jim Hall... Transcribe that... Start with Autumn Leaves, a standard, and analyze Ron's lines it will blow your mind 
Transcribe Paul Chambers on Miles Davis Kind Of Blue... Learn So-What first... It will probably be the easiest to transcribe being 2 chords.. but you can learn a lot from it...
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08-05-2011, 06:46 AM
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08-05-2011, 07:41 AM
|  | Supporting Member | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Metro Boston MA | | You live in Austin & are going to teach yourself to play Jazz? Honestly, a music tutor will cut years off the process & should connect you to ensemble lessons in under a year.
I admire Ed Friedland's book, refer to Mark Levine's Jazz Theory often & use RB 1 & RB 2 nearly every day. There is no substitute for a guide through the Jazz Music Forest. Do yourself a favor & find a teacher.
FWIW, a library card will connect you to; https://www.ci.austin.tx.us/uhtbin/cgisirsi/x/x/0/49
That looks like a really nice collection of music.
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08-05-2011, 07:55 AM
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Yah, the bass clef Real Book. I must have linked the wrong one.
251, I was wanting to get familiar with some stuff first. I can't afford lessons right now, do to bad decisions.
I do have a library card. I don't see anything in your link. It's just the search bar. I searched Jazz and there is a bunch of stuff.
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08-05-2011, 08:14 AM
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Owner: BassStringsOnline.com | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: LA California | | I have both Bass and Treble clef Real Books... I use the Treble more, rarely touch the Bass...
Since you are learning, get your Treble clef chops up!
AND, Transpose tunes into other keys... You want to be KEYLESS... Learn every tune in every key, you will thank your self if you ever work for a vocalist! Giant Steps Walking Bassline - In all 12 keys...
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08-05-2011, 08:47 AM
|  | Hammer On! | | Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Babbling Brook | | | It will sure be helpful in the long run to continue making passes through the theory material, and refresh/increase your knowledge base there-over time.
Example...it doesn't make sense to not know/practice a song in a bunch of keys (to me). However, it sure makes sense to be able to transition/play it in more than one key with practice. After all, they're the same thing-starting in different pitches.
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08-05-2011, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by dozicusmaximus Cool, thanks Slap
Yah, the bass clef Real Book. I must have linked the wrong one.
251, I was wanting to get familiar with some stuff first. I can't afford lessons right now, do to bad decisions.
I do have a library card. I don't see anything in your link. It's just the search bar. I searched Jazz and there is a bunch of stuff. | Yes it is a link to the search bar. See if they have a copy of "The Best of Blue Note" It is 4 disks, sometimes called the "Blue Book". That is a good list of play-a-long/starting material to learn & many are in the Real Book. Look for the 8 disk Smithsonian Jazz Collection & a copy of Jerry Coker's "Listening to Jazz". Coker uses the Smithsonian to illustrate the book. It is an entertaining way to spend a few hours per week.
Download a copy of Jamie Aebersold's Jazz Handbook at; Jamey Aebersold Jazz: Free Jamey Aebersold Jazz Handbook
Spend some time with the scale syllabus. Whatever your past experience with scales, learn to play these, starting each with your 1st, 2nd, 4th fingers, ascending, descending, broken 3rds, moving up/down the fretboard, Circle of 4th/5th ... Once it feels familiar, stop looking at your hands all the time. Just a glance to be sure where you are. You will spend much time with your eyes on a chart. Not looking is a survival skill. Break the practice into small chunks & put in 10-15 minutes a day with a metronome. Be patient this can take months, even years to find the comfort zone, so there is no hurry.
Find like minded people & jam with them. Don't wait until you think you are ready. As soon as you can keep time & the form of a tune with Root/5 & an occasional arpeggio, jam. Making mistakes is a good way to learn. Making mistakes is no big deal. Jazz players do it all the time. Being able to hear the chord changes & the time from the bass & drums is what averts most train wrecks. Playing with a group is how you practice listening while playing. I suspect you already know this.
Good luck
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08-05-2011, 03:46 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Québec | | | Get the Omnibook, you have enough material in that for about.......20 years.
Get harmony lessons also.
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08-05-2011, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by dozicusmaximus Cool, thanks Slap
Yah, the bass clef Real Book. I must have linked the wrong one.
251, I was wanting to get familiar with some stuff first. I can't afford lessons right now, do to bad decisions.
I do have a library card. I don't see anything in your link. It's just the search bar. I searched Jazz and there is a bunch of stuff. | Yes it is a link to the search bar. See if they have a copy of "The Best of Blue Note" It is 4 disks, sometimes called the "Blue Book". That is a good list of play-a-long/starting material to learn & many are in the Real Book. Look for the 8 disk Smithsonian Jazz Collection & a copy of Jerry Coker's "Listening to Jazz". Coker uses the Smithsonian to illustrate the book. It is an entertaining way to spend a few hours per week.
Download a copy of Jamie Aebersold's Jazz Handbook at; Jamey Aebersold Jazz: Free Jamey Aebersold Jazz Handbook
Spend some time with the scale syllabus. Whatever your past experience with scales, learn to play these, starting each with your 1st, 2nd, 4th fingers, ascending, descending, broken 3rds, moving up/down the fretboard, Circle of 4th/5th ... Once it feels familiar, stop looking at your hands all the time. Just a glance to be sure where you are. You will spend much time with your eyes on a chart. Not looking is a survival skill. Break the practice into small chunks & put in 10-15 minutes a day with a metronome. Be patient this can take months, even years to find the comfort zone, so there is no hurry.
Find like minded people & jam with them. Don't wait until you think you are ready. As soon as you can keep time & the form of a tune with Root/5 & an occasional arpeggio, jam. Making mistakes is a good way to learn. Making mistakes is no big deal. Jazz players do it all the time. Being able to hear the chord changes & the time from the bass & drums is what averts most train wrecks. Playing with a group is how you practice listening while playing. I suspect you already know this.
Good luck
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