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Old 12-15-2012, 04:31 PM
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I think you're missing the point.
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I suppose one of the points that I was trying to make earlier, was that learning jazz honestly doesn't take quite as long as people think, as long as you can stay immersed in the music, and communicate with it as much as possible. If it took that much time, we wouldn't have any jazz as we know it, since most of the jazz we tend to revere was made by guys in their 20's, a lot with 10 or less years of playing experience. Chambers and Parker were both dead at 39. LaFaro at 25...

But since this whole thing has gotten so way out there, I'll end my part and say, OK Ed you're right. Thanks!
It can take less time in the right environment, but the environment that those players came up and playing opportunities open to them, does not exist today. Five years from now, you'll be wondering what you were talking about.
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Old 12-15-2012, 05:46 PM
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Learning improvisation will require you to employ a system that allows you to compartmentalize and categorize the sounds (tools) you want to employ in your storytelling. Whether you study traditional theory, develop your own theory or use some of both, you are going to have to put a system of categorization in place.

No, you don't have to study "Dorian" mode (or any kind of formal theory) if you don't want to, but why WOULDN'T you if the rest of the world has already placed a label on that sound? If you did then you can at least communicate effectively in English with like-minded musicians and even get second opinions on the matter.

Too often, I hear I hear people say to me, "Well John Doe doesn't know any theory." I first respond by saying, "Well, you're not John Doe! And I am certain he has a system in place to where he knows where the appropriate sounds are on his instrument."

Playing solos isn't hard, inspired improvisation is. If you don't endeavor to use every tool possible to cultivate your creativity then just go out and join a "fun" band and copy a few solos and riffs and just recycle them at will.
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Old 12-15-2012, 09:33 PM
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Yeah no problem man that Jazzadvice.com website is great..

I highly recommend you get all the absersold play alongs they will definitely help a lot!...

Theres also plenty of resources on Youtube for information/insight into jazz improvisation,language and vocabulary stuff!!

Check out the JazzVideoGuy on youtube hes fantastic with jazz related videos! U want some really good videos check these out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4kVUIpfTPU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7V_vgjX9XA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mLDdxEhRnM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfgfo1cj_BQ

I'm not sure if these guys are qualified to give advice though....
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Old 12-15-2012, 10:18 PM
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hahahahahahahahaha

this one is the best

I couldn't bring myself to reading ALL of it, there is the usual good advice and a lot of speculation.

It's called WORK and guess what, it never ends

But, that is the best part. I've neem trying for 40+yrs now - I solo like crap

considered a solid jazz bassist I still don;t like to solo - I'm still learning
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Old 12-19-2012, 09:11 PM
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Get Teach Me Bass Guitar by Roy Vogt including the color book. Learn it all.

Go to Playjazznow.com and get the backing tracks for bassists. Start with the easy ones and progress to the more advanced.
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