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Old 09-20-2004, 03:01 AM
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How to learn to play a quarter note triplet?

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I've got a problem. For some reason, learning to play a quarter note triplet so that it is rhythmically correct seems to be extremely difficult to me (any other have similar problems?).

Especially difficult to maintain even foot tap.

So, any word of advice would be highly appreciated!
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Old 09-20-2004, 05:02 AM
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Tough to tap your foot along triplets? it seems the problem is not mechanical but has to do with your level of comfort with music that uses triplets in general. I used to play the drums and had the same issue 11 years ago. I managed to overcome it by intensively listening and playing music with triplets, like traditionnal jazz, blues,...
Also start practicing with the metronome playing on beat 2 and 4. (like a drummer's snare drum or hihat), it will help you develop strong swing and feel!
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Old 09-20-2004, 11:25 AM
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Only way is to practice, and listen to pieces where they're featured.

I hear you, though - they're not the kind of triplet divisions most of us are used to hearing.
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Get a notation program like Finale Notepad and create a section with triplets over a 4/4 beat, so you can hear then and practice along.
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It can be a bit tricky until you get the feel of it. I found the best way for me was to listen and imitate. See if you can have any use of this simple MIDI. It's all steady quarter notes in the beat, one bar count in, one bar arpeggiated quarter notes, then four bars of arpeggiated quarter triplets. You could always start with just listening and tapping your foot to the beat. Then tap your foot to the beat and sing along with the "melody". Then play it.

EDIT: Why can't I attach anything? Ah, seems like you have to do the MIDI yourself after all.
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EDIT: Why can't I attach anything? Ah, seems like you have to do the MIDI yourself after all.
Make the midi file a zip file first and attach the zip file.

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Make the midi file a zip file first and attach the zip file.
I've tried, it doesn't work. No matter what I do, it just won't attach. Something for a bug report, perhaps?
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Old 09-20-2004, 10:53 PM
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You are right. Not working for me either. Worked last week on another thread.

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Old 09-21-2004, 09:08 AM
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The best way I can explain how to play a 1/4 note triplet is to think of them as two 1/8 note triplets tied together.
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Old 09-21-2004, 10:41 AM
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Hey, here is a great page:

http://www.pnc.com.au/~beehive/reading12.html

Look down the page for "Listen to the midi file - quarter notes followed by eighth note triplets followed by quarter note triplets."

Let me try to link it here:

Listen to the midi file

Hey, that's pretty neat.

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When you tap your foot on the quarter note and play quarter note triplets you're playing a 3:2 rhythm. Try this - tap your foot on the quarters with a metronome clicking at around 70 bpm. Now, somehow vocalize 1/8 note triplets, which should be pretty easy to do. Sing, click your tongue, count, whatever. Now, clap your hands on every other 1/8 note triplet. cassanova had it right with the tied 1/8 note triplet thing. The key is to feel the 1/8 note triplets while playing the 1/4 triplets. Once you got that, give 1/2 note triplets a shot.

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Thank you all for your replies, they are most helpful!

I keep on practicing and hope that I could report on progress in the near future!
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I've got a problem. For some reason, learning to play a quarter note triplet so that it is rhythmically correct seems to be extremely difficult to me (any other have similar problems?).

Especially difficult to maintain even foot tap.

So, any word of advice would be highly appreciated!
You might also want to have a look at the:Active Bass Line Builder

It's free, and you have a variety of programming options. Looks like this:

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usa a metronome. Set it to a two beat feel. a Click on every 1 & 3. Play straight quarter notes(1234). Then play the triplets (1-trip-let 2-trip-let) then back to straight quarter notes(1234).

Do this enough and you will have no problem hearing and being able to play the triplets from a straight 4/4.

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Old 09-25-2004, 05:02 AM
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usa a metronome. Set it to a two beat feel. a Click on every 1 & 3. Play straight quarter notes(1234). Then play the triplets (1-trip-let 2-trip-let) then back to straight quarter notes(1234).

Do this enough and you will have no problem hearing and being able to play the triplets from a straight 4/4

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Sounds good, thanks! Will try it right away!
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Old 09-27-2004, 09:15 AM
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What helped me was to consider 1/4 note triplets as 1/8 note triplets with each note doubled, i.e., if the note were C, E, G, I'd first play it as CC, EE, GG in 1/8 note triplets (CCE, EGG). From this it was easy to see that the quarter note triplets fall on 1 and 3 of the first quarter note and on 2 of the second quarter note.
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Old 11-13-2004, 12:29 AM
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QUARTER NOTE TRIPLETS

If you really want to get the hang of it break it right down

ie. Say we have our friends the eight note triplets

1&a 2&a 3&a 4&a

We know by experience that a quarter note triplet is valued at 2 beats ( minium or half note )
Now hit the 1 the a of 1 and the & of 2
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