I try to keep my peeves to myself

sonofabass · #1 07-27-2011, 12:20 PM

but one of my biggest is guitar teachers who "teach" bass.

Thanks for listening. Have a great day!!

Russell L · #2 07-27-2011, 01:25 PM

Why's that? I play both and have taught both.

sonofabass · #3 07-27-2011, 02:29 PM

You could very well be an exception to the "rule" . I find that most of the guitarists that I know that "teach" bass aren't really qualified to teach bass, that's why?

Of course there are guys that are equally good on both but the roles and mechanics are different enough that I think that to 'hack' (not saying that you're one of those people) a student through lessons is irresponsible.

The posting was meant to be funny. (it was to me) hopefully you (or noone else) got offended.

MattP · #4 07-27-2011, 02:34 PM

I don't necessarily have a problem with guitar players that teach bass. It depends on how the person teaches. There are a lot of music store teachers that teach just for the extra cash. They teach both, but aren't very good at either.

There are other teachers that devote their time and energy to being excellent teachers. Those teachers teach music, not instruments. Reggie Wooten is an excellent example of this.

**251** · #5 07-27-2011, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MattP

I don't necessarily have a problem with guitar players that teach bass. It depends on how the person teaches. There are a lot of music store teachers that teach just for the extra cash. They teach both, but aren't very good at either.

There are other teachers that devote their time and energy to being excellent teachers. Those teachers teach music, not instruments. Reggie Wooten is an excellent example of this.

Ahhh, you're out on the slippery slope now. My advice is to avoid explaining what you meant to say. YRMV, 8-)

Reggie Wooten is an excellent example as a human being, a teacher & is also a very innovative musician.

My music tutor plays, guitar 1st + piano, drums, bass guitar. Playing duets in a lesson is primo. Not having another instrument in my pitch range during a lesson is priceless!

Russell L · #6 07-27-2011, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sonofabass

You could very well be an exception to the "rule" . I find that most of the guitarists that I know that "teach" bass aren't really qualified to teach bass, that's why?

Of course there are guys that are equally good on both but the roles and mechanics are different enough that I think that to 'hack' (not saying that you're one of those people) a student through lessons is irresponsible.

The posting was meant to be funny. (it was to me) hopefully you (or noone else) got offended.

No offence taken. Some teachers are better than others, true. Some strictly guitar players might do ok teaching elementary bass, though. Depends.

sonofabass · #7 07-27-2011, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Russell L

No offence taken. Some teachers are better than others, true. Some strictly guitar players might do ok teaching elementary bass, though. Depends.

Awesome! :-)

HaVIC5 · #8 07-27-2011, 03:56 PM

I'm a bass player who just got a job teaching guitar. Do you dislike that?

Kobaia · #9 07-27-2011, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by HaVIC5

I'm a bass player who just got a job teaching guitar. Do you dislike that?

as long as you teach them french grip

beelzelboss · #10 07-30-2011, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sonofabass

but one of my biggest is guitar teachers who "teach" bass.

Thanks for listening. Have a great day!!

My original bass teacher was a guitarist, Singer and violinist. He was a wonderful teacher as far as mechanics and music theory. I just stopped going to him when he went onto teaching me songs instead of teaching me how to be creative. I regret that most, but I'm learning it now.

ryco · #11 07-30-2011, 07:43 PM

I took lessons from two older Union guitar players in the early 70s because there were no bass guitar teachers I could find in Seattle. Great guys - one's still teaching and playing, one passed away a couple of years ago.

Learned a lot from both of them. Found one in the music store where I bought my first bass and I needed help in high school learning to read Jazz Band charts. He taught me for a couple of years until he said I had outgrown his abilities to teach bass. He offered to teach me guitar, which I kinda regret not taking up his offer, and recommended studying with his friend. Took from his friend for another couple of years - went thru the Carol Kaye Books and the Valda Hammerick Books.

Glad I took this route. It was great having a guitar play chords while trying out different lines and ideas.

Cloverfield · #12 07-31-2011, 03:13 PM

Good grief, too many qualifying statements. I feel like it was pretty clear what you, sonofabass, meant by your initial post, and I agree with the sentiment.

Guitarists who don't really play bass I find don't teach or understand a proper bassist's perspective as far as groove and role in a musical group.

KingRazor · #13 07-31-2011, 11:26 PM

I'd rather be taught by a musician than by a _ player.

I can learn technique anywhere. What I would go to a teacher for is how to play music.

bigboy_78 · #14 07-31-2011, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KingRazor

I'd rather be taught by a musician than by a _ player.

I can learn technique anywhere. What I would go to a teacher for is how to play music.

I'd rather be taught by a teacher than a musician. I've only had one bass lesson. It was last week and it was bad.

I said I was interested in improving my walking lines, so he busted out some fancy walking lines and then said:

"I'm not really sure how I make those lines, I just kinda do it".

Bass Player: Yes

Bass Teacher: Not even close.