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Lately, I've been working really hard on learning music theory. So far, I've learned the most common modes (ionian, lydian, mixolydian, aeolian, dorian, phrygian, locrian) along with the Persian scale, the Double Harmonic and Arabic scales, the Ukrainian minor scale, the Yo scale, the In scale, and the major and minor pentatonics (all this in the course of about 3 days, phew!).

Anyway, does anyone know of any other cool sounding scales I should look up? I'm just looking for different sounds and patterns and stuff. Always nice to have something else in the toolbox!
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I've taken a liking to the phrygian major(aka spanish scale) lately. Spelled r - b2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - b6 - b7 - r. It has some nice applications as the dominant of a minor key(it is the mode for the fifth degree of the harmonic minor scale) or in jazz pieces where dominant 7b9 chords crop up. Another interesting thing to do is add chromatic approach notes to arpeggios e.g precede each chord tone with a note either a semi-tone above or below.
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How about the Un scale?
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So far, I've learned the most common modes (ionian, lydian, mixolydian, aeolian, dorian, phrygian, locrian) along with the Persian scale, the Double Harmonic and Arabic scales, the Ukrainian minor scale, the Yo scale, the In scale, and the major and minor pentatonics
i'd like to learn them, reckon you can post the structure of them?
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15 scales in 3 days, that's a lot! It may be a good idea to really master those scales first, knowing just the patterns isn't nearly all there is to understanding a scale.
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i'd like to learn them, reckon you can post the structure of them?
All of them?!

Maybe when I get some sleep in me. I've been running for 25 hours right now!

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15 scales in 3 days, that's a lot! It may be a good idea to really master those scales first, knowing just the patterns isn't nearly all there is to understanding a scale.
I'm not gonna lie, I cheated a bit and knew 3 of the aforementioned scales beforehand, I just didn't know the terminology. Believe me, I practice these as much as possible every single day. I don't write 'em down somewhere and just *expect* to be a bass god
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using "interesting" to describe scales is like using "exciting" to describe sleep.
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Learn Ragas instead.
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There are only 12 notes and only so many logical ways to arrange them in order. You'd be better off learning melodic phrases - try coping some great jazz lines from Miles Davis, or John Coltrane.
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There are only 12 notes and only so many logical ways to arrange them in order. You'd be better off learning melodic phrases - try coping some great jazz lines from Miles Davis, or John Coltrane.
12 notes depends on what part of the world you're dealing with. I have a book that shows me 72 notes to play with.
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I'm sure somebody here will will sell you their copy of the Bass Grimiore.
I has literally more scales than you'll ever need.
Which is why i'm sure they'll sell it.

That's my smart Alec remark
Here's why some of us are responding with a bit of sarcasm:

Learning lots of unusual scales can be fun for generating ideas.
But for most bass related pursuits, is of limited practical value
if you don't spend time deepening your understanding of the most basic scales (major,minor, mix, pentatonic )
and learning the how, why, and especially the how and why NOT to use them.

The most common and useful (to a band) role for a bassist is to support and outline the harmony of the song.
This means most useful area in music theory is chords, harmonizing scales, and chord progressions.
So If you are serious about theory, and haven't yet begun learning harmony, do that.
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Good book for you

pick up a copy of THE BASS GRIMOIRE at any music store. it basiclly has all of the most common scales and alot of others in all of their positions and has every detail about the scales you could ever want.
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The major and natural minor scale, aka, Ionian and Aeloian will let you make all the music you need. Being able to run a scale up and back down is not music and not very important to what we do. Knowing how to make a melody from those two scales is the important thing.

Knowing how to develop a bass line and play chord tones, now that is what we do.
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Being an old fart, I find it hard to remember the notes and positions of scales n modes. The only one I can play with any confidence is the isuckian mode. I can play that one in all keys and all over the neck
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I don't think you mentionned the Blues scales.
This is THE SCALE. Especially the major one 1-2-#2-3-5-6-1.
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using "interesting" to describe scales is like using "exciting" to describe sleep.
except for me sleep is actually exciting.
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Sounds like you need this:
http://www.amazon.com/Thesaurus-Scal...6738553&sr=1-1
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The Bass Grimiore might be just the ticket...

The compendium of formulas for scales and modes known as the Grimiore series-likely makes most who buy it-yawn, and followed by parking it at the back of the stack.
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pick up a copy of THE BASS GRIMOIRE .... has every detail about the scales you could ever want.
Except for a few minor details...like why and how they can be used.

But yeah, if you want a boat load of neck charts for a boatload of scales, that's probably your ticket.
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