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Old 01-19-2009, 02:04 PM
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hi folks...i have just started transcribing and i'm listening to abraham laboriel(respect)...he plays these mad runs n fills which i slow down and work out...i can play them independently but i want to know how to incorporate the fills, runs and licks into my playing...are there any exercises (other than singing them out) to internalize them to such an extent that when i play, i don't really think about it but just play in the moment????

theres a vidoe on youtube where this guy justin sandercoe (great teacher) teaches how to incorporate guitar licks into your playing....just take a lick and play it over n over for a full 5 mins over the 12 bar blues(this has helped my guitar playing) ....but this obviously won't work with the bass as we keep highlighting chord changes

any help will be appreciated..greetings from india
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Old 01-19-2009, 02:53 PM
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Applying runs (or riffs or grooves) from bassists whom you have transcribed requires that you analyze the context in which they appear.
-what chords are the notes supporting?
-which notes of the run are crucial to the harmony, and which are incidental?
-how does the run fit into what the other instruments are doing?

Aside from repeated practice, you should also play around with the phrase and experiment
-play the run in a variety of keys
-try translating it to a different style (can jazz phrase be altered to work in a country context?)
- can I alter the chords and produce a similar phrase?

Mostly It comes down to understanding what chords the phrase supports and looking for similar chord motion in the songs you come across.
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Applying runs (or riffs or grooves) from bassists whom you have transcribed requires that you analyze the context in which they appear.
-what chords are the notes supporting?
-which notes of the run are crucial to the harmony, and which are incidental?
-how does the run fit into what the other instruments are doing?

Aside from repeated practice, you should also play around with the phrase and experiment
-play the run in a variety of keys
-try translating it to a different style (can jazz phrase be altered to work in a country context?)
- can I alter the chords and produce a similar phrase?

Mostly It comes down to understanding what chords the phrase supports and looking for similar chord motion in the songs you come across.
+10 Like a child learning to speak. They to say words and blurt them out but usually at the wrong time. They have learn what context they relate to. That is the same learning licks, riffs, motifs besides transcribing and learning to play it you have to analyze how it was used.. A good way to understand a lick is after you feel you understand it then write 5 more licks of your own like it.
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Old 01-19-2009, 06:48 PM
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A good way to understand a lick is after you feel you understand it then write 5 more licks of your own like it.
Big +1.

Another good way is to play it in other keys, over other music.
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Old 01-19-2009, 11:36 PM
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"CONTEXT".....now why dint' i think of that...it works, not just melodically but even if you keep the time duration in mind...great advice guys,keep the tips coming
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