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12-02-2007, 09:24 AM
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Hi everyone,
I tried a search but couldn't really find anything helpful. So basically what i need is good jazz guitarist (or songs with leading guitar) with nice bass lines. What i have this far:
1) Django (learned all of me, going to minor swing next)
2)Bireli Lagrene (Blues Clair, our guitarist still has a little problems with this  )
3)Pat Metheny (going to learn Bright size life)
4)George Benson (working on Breezing)
5)Then there is The Chicken (yeah i know there really is not much for guitar, but if you play those saxsofone lines with guitar then maybe)
6)Then there is Frank Gambale but i haven't found suitable songs from him yet
And our guitarist finds some of the old guys like Wes Montgomory too boring to play. And one song that i really like to play also is Closing in from the Living End (not a jazz band but hte song is prretty jazzy i think). And instrumental songs preferred, if you didn't guess it already. If you don't have any straight jazz but more bluesy ones, they are welcome too, if they just have good lead guitar and nice bass lines.
All the suggestions are welcome... |
12-02-2007, 09:30 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Brussels | | | Larry Carlton would be a good start.
if you are more into 'jazzy' songs with great guitar solos, check out Steely Dan. |
12-02-2007, 09:46 AM
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Blasphemy!
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12-02-2007, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by HaVIC5  WES MONTGOMERY TOO BORING?!?
Blasphemy! | +100 Any guitarist who listen to early Wes and thinks he's boring should be forced to quit playing because they are clueless.
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12-02-2007, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by mvw356 Larry Carlton would be a good start.
if you are more into 'jazzy' songs with great guitar solos, check out Steely Dan. | As i quicly checked from youtube, Larry Carlton sounds promising. Nothing wrong with the Steely Dan either, but as i said, for playing i/we prefer instrumentals for now. But it might be interesting band to listen so i have to check them better out when i have more time. |
12-02-2007, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by DocBop +100 Any guitarist who listen to early Wes and thinks he's boring should be forced to quit playing because they are clueless. | OK, tell me some must know Wes Montgomery songs and i force him to listen and learn
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12-02-2007, 10:31 AM
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Endorsing Artist: John Doe Guitars | | Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Rochester, NY | | | What about John Scofield and Bill Frisell? |
12-02-2007, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Audiophage What about John Scofield and Bill Frisell? | Scofield i've heard before but for some reason didn't remember him. Do you have any songs in mind? Protocol? Bill Frisell I have never heard of but what i quickly found from youtube, he seemed to be little different from the "mainstream" which might not be a bad thing. Have to listen more to him also. |
12-02-2007, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by routasydän OK, tell me some must know Wes Montgomery songs and i force him to listen and learn | Here are a couple of essential Wes Montgomery albums: The Incredible Jazz Guitar of Wes Montgomery  Smokin at the Half Note 
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12-02-2007, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by routasydän OK, tell me some must know Wes Montgomery songs and i force him to listen and learn | Anything of Wes prior to his stuff on A&M records. Even that stuff is good, but too many strings and big arrangement they were trying to make him more commercial. Wes' phrasing is a master lesson in itself. Try to find some of the classic CD's with Jimmy Smith and Wes Montgomery.
Also tell your guitarist to find some early George Benson on CTI like Body Talk or Blue Benson. Early Pat Martino is great stuff too.
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12-02-2007, 12:22 PM
| | | | pat martino's stuff is pretty damn cool. |
12-02-2007, 12:25 PM
| | | | john scofield, pat martino, charly christian, JIM HALL, Pat metheny,kurt rosenwinkel,bill frisell,Wes Montgomery,Django Reinhard,Frank Gambale, mike stern, allan holdsworth,bireli lagrene, larry carlton,wayne krantz..etc,etc,etc
Some of these I wouldnt call jazz, but all work in related genres. |
12-02-2007, 01:55 PM
| | | | Alan Holdsworth, Mike Stern, John Scofield. |
12-02-2007, 06:40 PM
| | | | Many greats have already been mentioned except one.......Joe Pass........try him out. He had some great bassists playing behind him.
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12-03-2007, 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by DocBop +100 Any guitarist who listen to early Wes and thinks he's boring should be forced to quit playing because they are clueless. | Yup - Pat Metheny cites him as a big influence and the artist who made him want to play - he also says that "Smokin at the Half Note" is the best Jazz guitar album ever!  Quote:
Originally Posted by routasydän OK, tell me some must know Wes Montgomery songs and i force him to listen and learn | I like "4 on 6" - nice bass line!
Also Bock to Bock is a personal fav - but there are loads more.
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12-03-2007, 03:19 AM
| | Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor | | Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Brighton, England, UK, Europe | | Nobody yet mentioned Kenny Burrell, Bill Frisell....
I really like the trio album with Ron Carter and Paul Motian!
Playing "On the Street where you live" like Bill Frisell does would be a good challenge! 
Also - for another challenge - how about Jim Hall's "Simple Samba" ?
At high tempo it's anything but simple to play!
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12-03-2007, 06:02 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oulu, Finland | | | Wow, a lot of new names. This will give me something to do for the next few evenigs to sophisticate myself and get to know the music of these masters. I'll sincerely thank everyone participated, and of course you can still add names or songs if you have them. |
12-04-2007, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Bruce Lindfield Nobody yet mentioned Kenny Burrell, Bill Frisell....
I really like the trio album with Ron Carter and Paul Motian!
Playing "On the Street where you live" like Bill Frisell does would be a good challenge!
Also - for another challenge - how about Jim Hall's "Simple Samba" ?
At high tempo it's anything but simple to play! | I did,I did...mention Bill Frisell!!! Yesyesyesy...he's excellent 
(feels like I just turned 13 again...
There's some nice joe pass vids on youtube.With NHOP!! |
12-04-2007, 03:47 PM
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12-05-2007, 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by ZonPlyr no John McLaughlin? the work on que alegria is nothing short of amazing by all players. And it's a great introduction to Dominique if you haven't heard him before. | I got the impression that the OP was talking about "Jazz tunes to learn" as in nice melodic heads for guitar, for their band to play ...?
Whereas when I think of John Mc - I think of blisteringly fast fusion that anybody else would find totally impossible!
So - while it's great music - not the sort of thing I would recommend an amateur/semi pro small band to tackle!!
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