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Old 09-28-2005, 06:59 AM
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The augmented fourth was popularized by Charlie Parker and Dizzie Gillespie, not metal bands.


I mean in popular music. Sadly, Bird and Dizzy aren't exactly on the radio much these days, but play that interval and Black Sabbath will pop into a lot of people's minds.
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Old 09-28-2005, 08:54 AM
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I mean in popular music. Sadly, Bird and Dizzy aren't exactly on the radio much these days, but play that interval and Black Sabbath will pop into a lot of people's minds.
I spose it depends on the context... the general harmonic & timbral environment environment

you have a flat 5/sharp 4 in the whole tone scale, and the whole tone scale usually just sounds weird rather than evil

and a slithery lydian scale over a major7 with that #4 in a jazzy context will probably say 'mystery and intrique' rather than 'Satan is coming to eat your head'

obviously if he hammers out lots of root-sharp4 movements over and over again it'll sound a bit heavy metal, but if the other stuff going on doesn't 'smell of metal' he should be ok

there's an argument that lydian is 'even more major than major' as you can think of your modes as a sequence of alteratons to each other, one raised semitone at a time... i.e. raise the 5 in locrian, get phyrgian, raise the 2 in phyrgian, get aeolian, raise the 6 in aeolian, get dorian etc... and lydian is the last in the sequence after ionian (major)
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Old 09-28-2005, 02:03 PM
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I mean in popular music. Sadly, Bird and Dizzy aren't exactly on the radio much these days, but play that interval and Black Sabbath will pop into a lot of people's minds.
Maybe that's what popular music needs more of.
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Old 09-28-2005, 02:55 PM
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Yeah I know what you're saying, Brian. I was feeling kinda sassy and grumpy this morning.
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Old 10-03-2005, 07:14 PM
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The augmented fourth was popularized by Charlie Parker and Dizzie Gillespie, not metal bands.
Well thats where I'm used to hearing it. But I think Debussy may have used it before Diz. Could be wrong about that though.

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