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11-03-2006, 02:13 PM
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Ok, ive been playing for a week, ive been practicing some major scales, a couple of mixolodian and blues scales and making riffs out of them. Ive copied a few riff from RATM, Chillies, James Brown etc. Ive bought a bass techniques book, which is very dry!
Can any of you kind bass folk direct a poor drummer to any good sites or give me tips on scales theory, practice, and how to apply them? And also any other helpful tips and hints for the begining bassist!
Cheers! 
Will
Last edited by Big_Will : 11-03-2006 at 04:38 PM.
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11-03-2006, 02:32 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: under a palm tree sippin pepsi | | | youre at the best bass sight here. i have been playin for a little over a year and have found that any question you can think of can be answered here in the many forums.
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11-03-2006, 03:05 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Canada | | Yeah, start with the stickys at the top of the threads. For example, a good way to practice scales is decribed in a sticky at the top of this very forum! Pacman's sure-fire scale practice method |
11-03-2006, 03:38 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bay Area, CA | | | I dont know if you played guitar first (I did/do, and it looks like you were/are a drummer) But the best advice for guitarists turned bassists is DONT play a bass like a guitar! Its a bass! If you are a drummer, then you will understand the importance of a metronome as well. |
11-03-2006, 03:46 PM
| | | A drummer turned bass player. That's a cool thing, bass and drums go hand and hand.
Check out this site, has some worth while information. http://www.thelibster.com/bass/ |
11-03-2006, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Bass | cheers, ive already had a brief look and had a bit of a go at it. ill def give it a proper run through soon.
Fracture - yeah, too right! i used to play in a 3 piece band where there were both guitar players and no one wanted to be the one who played bass. They played it with a pick (not a fan of the sound of a pick on bass, except in heavy music), had no groove at all and couldnt lock in or listen for sh*t! and the funny thing was they both said bass was boring and easy too! 
The metronome is all sorted, i have a ridiculous one with all the options, time sigs and subdivisions you could ever need! (and im still a drummer, im hooked for life for sure. I just want to explore this concept you call 'melody'  )
Last edited by Big_Will : 11-03-2006 at 05:15 PM.
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11-03-2006, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by RWP A drummer turned bass player. That's a cool thing, bass and drums go hand and hand. | There is no way im selling out on the rythm section! |
11-03-2006, 05:46 PM
| | | | The interesting thing is you will be able to play bass from a drummers prospective. As a drummer you know what you like to hear from the bass. I think you have a head start on things. Good luck! |
11-03-2006, 06:10 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Sarnia, Ontario, Canada | | Quote: |
Originally Posted by RWP A drummer turned bass player. That's a cool thing, bass and drums go hand and hand.
Check out this site, has some worth while information. http://www.thelibster.com/bass/ | +1000
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11-03-2006, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by RWP The interesting thing is you will be able to play bass from a drummers prospective. As a drummer you know what you like to hear from the bass. I think you have a head start on things. Good luck! | Thanks. I think ill be the type of bassist who hangs out at the back of the stage and watches the drummer rather than play 'lead'.
To be honest, the faster i learn the scales so i can jam and improvise live, the better. The bassist who i usually play with is not a bad drummer, and has serious funkyness, so it will be interesting! 
Any more links, tips etc are extremely welcome! cheers to RWP for the link before. |
11-04-2006, 12:09 AM
| | | | Come to me Big Will! |
11-04-2006, 01:19 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Seattle WA area | | | right there with ya Will, as you can tell by my screen name.
the best advice i can give you is what you probably already know from playing drums -- quality drums sound, play, tune and feel better. so do cymbals. so does a quality bass.
i dunno what you play now, but go shopping for the best bass you can afford. it will make learning easier for you.
The best bass you can afford should also be the one that
fits your hands the best, and has the # of strings on it you
like. I went quickly from 4 to 5 string just cause i like the
spacing of a 5 string. i went from low end 4 to a farily high
end 5 (roscoe) as it just felt great to me. |
11-04-2006, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by thelibster Come to me Big Will! | Wow! How can i resist!   (must be my lucky day)
drumsnbass- im borrowing an encore 4 string, which my bassist mate lent me. it originally cost £60 from Argos, but it seems perfectly playable to me, despite a few rattles here and there! im also playing it through my cd speakers! not very proffessional equipment all in all! (mainly because i recently bought some eliminator double pedals foir £300!!!)
i think as soon as i make sure i know for definate im gonna carry on, ill get a 5 or 6 string, and a good quality little practice amp.
whts the best, most definitive scales list there is? is this a good start? http://www.angelfire.com/id/bass
edit - making my way through the utility scales on lib's website. very helpful stuff!
Will
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11-04-2006, 08:30 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Seattle WA area | | | DON'T drive yourself nuts memorizing scales. It is a sheer waste of time. Memorize chord patterns first and how to play them. When you know the different chord patterns for the most common chords (Major, Minor, Dom 7th to start) you will be way along to "playing" the bass. |
11-05-2006, 11:08 AM
| | | | Ok, ill look into that on libs website, but surely learning the scales can do only good? Im mainly concentrating on the blues scales, major scales and pentatonic. (mainly because they are at the top of lib's list!) im having a blast messing about with them, and changing keys, octaves etc..
So you learnt the chords first, then the scales? (i probably need a teacher to set me on the straight and narrow)
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11-05-2006, 11:48 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Seattle WA area | | | you eventually need it all. and if you are working on two or three scales, by all means feel free to learn them. however, if you concentrate on the finger patterns of the scales as they apply to playing the chords, your scale work will come along with that naturally. All the various scales and chords have their own finger patterns. And if you are still new to bass (as i pretty much still am) learning to play the chord notes will get you "playing" that much faster that trying to kep all the scale notes correct between lots of scales, and then remembering how to apply them to your playing. |
11-06-2006, 01:11 PM
| | | cool, cheers for the help.
by the way, what drumkit and cymbals have you got? |
11-06-2006, 01:24 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Seattle WA area | | | Yamaha Recording Customs with a buttload of Sabian's |
11-08-2006, 09:31 AM
| | | Are they good? i dont have much experience with Yamaha. Ive got a pearl export with sabian pro sonix and zildian avedis. The pro sonix are really harsh, i wouldnt recomend them! Hopefully, im gonna upgrade my kit at some point, and get handhammered sabians!  What type have you got? |
11-09-2006, 02:35 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Seattle WA area | | 
Sabians are AA & AAX's. I actually scored a whole set at a pawn shop for a great deal, and they all just matched up real nice! i really have no prefernce of Sabian over Zildjian or whatever, they were just too good a deal to pass up. be sure to check out some Paiste 2002's before you commit, they sound great as well. and always stay away from the low end cymbals, they always sound like junk.
Recording Customs were the drums of choice for years by the studio crowd. They're known as "the most recorded drums in the world".
They were Yamaha's top of the line, and guys like Gadd, Weckl, Garabaldi etc played them till the new Birch Absolute series came out. In fact, when I saw Tower of Power, David Garabaldi was playing an older anniversary set of YRC's instead of a newer Birch series. Told me they were his favorite drums cause he felt they "aged" well. Another time, i actually loaned part of my set to him thru the local backline cause they didn't have his sizes.
Personally, if I were going to do it all over, hands down i would get some Ayotte's with wood hoops. I think nothing beats those drums for pure sound. they just boom without sounding all ringy. if you can try a set sometime, you will know exactly what I mean. DW may be the "hot" brand now, but Ayottes with wood hoops leave them in the dust. then again, the nice thing about my YRC's is they are very "controlled".
I should add my favorite snare is also a YRC. it has a nice dry jazz sound. i don;t play out -- this whole music thing is my thing to play in the basement, but the few other drummers i know who have played that snare have absolutely loved it. You can make almost any snare ring, but it is harder than heck to get one dry and controlled like the YRC.
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