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Old 07-30-2007, 09:34 AM
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Knowing what key it is based on guitarist...

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Hey guys, I have been learning scales, chords and modes and what have you and I can apply it to the bass... however, I was wondering how this would help me in a band situation if the guitarist simply said, "I'm playing a *chord* and a *chord*" How would I know what key he was playing in? Do I simply have to think of the major pattern of tones and semi-tones and work it out in my head?

Can you guys help me on this?

(Oh yeah and presume the guitarist is playing in a key and it's a major key)
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Old 07-30-2007, 09:58 AM
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If you only have one or two chords it can be hard to determine key and have to rely on your ear. Until you ear tells you just use play chord tones, that is where knowing arpeggios comes in handy know the arp' and you know the chords to use. Then take a step further and learn basic theory on how chords are spelled you know the chord tones that way. Then as the song or jam progresses you will start hearing tonal feel for the song and can start adding notes beyond the chord tones.

The biggest clue at least to me about key is a dominant 7th chord. In Pop and other style it is your V7 chord, so if you know what the V7 is easy to figure out what I is, but again need ear for major I or minor I. Now everything has exceptions and Blues and Rock are it. Blues and Rock sometimes will make all chords dominants. Then back to the ear and listen for sound of the chord movements. Listen for what sounds like a V->I movement. That is part of reason I suggest people play a lot of Blues to get the sound of I-IV-V chords moving around in their ear. Simple description

The IV chord sounds like it is going away from home, away from I chord.
The V chord sounds like it is heading home, going back to the I chord.

Start singing the roots of a Blues progression and you will get a sense of what I am talking about.
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Old 07-30-2007, 12:51 PM
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Steve,

I thought that was a really good response. Appropriate to the question, practical and not overwhelmingly theoretical.

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