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Originally Posted by Dytomite  ive always learned that if i cant figure out drum licks or time signatures, i work backwards starting(in this case) when the band comes in after the drum intro. ive always been playing the intro 4 bars of 4/4 plus 1 bar of 3/8. i recently had to play the song at a gig with guys ive never played it with before and had to verify how THEY knew it before we started..to make it easy i just played 4 bars even and it worked out fine...
BUT..i beleive the real way is to START the intro with the 3/8 bar, leaving 4 even bars left to settle in to the groove. so the first 3 drum hits will be + 4 +...like a 3 note pickup into a 4 bar intro. it really changed how i heard the intro but i think its right. if you listen closely to the original over and over again, counting it like this, you'll notice that Bonham's last 4 hits of the intro are an obvious 3+4+. |
I agree with this post. I know this thread kind of died a while back but I wanted to take a stab at explaining what I think is going on. I recently had to learn this, and it felt really unnatural, so I had to slow it down and count it out until it made sense. It feels like 3 bars of 4/4 (I count in 8th notes here because it makes sense to me) and one bar of 11/8 (the 'and' becomes the 1). You could also call it 4 bars of 4/4 and 1 of 3/8.
Traditionally counted 8th notes:
1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and
1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and
1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and
1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and
1 and 2 1 and 2 and 3 and 4 (comes in on the 3rd 8th note)
The 'and' of the 5th bar becomes the 1
You could also count it this way (I prefer this way because the 'ands' get on my nerves:
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 1 2 3
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
It may be confusing for some to count to 8 because of the accents on the 4th bar, but like I said, this makes sense to me. I also like to count 5/4 as 1 2 3 4 1, 1 2 3 4 1, so I may be kind of weird that way.
Hope this helps.
