Locrian

[Garrett Mireles]

What's it good for? I'm getting really pissed off at this thing..can't use it for diddly squat.

[godoze]

it is good for playing over half diminished chords. like b d f a.

[Jazz Ad]

Most solos I play are in locrian mode.
It sounds wicked whatever the style.
perfect to darken a happy song of put fury into a mellow tune.

[moley]

Hi Garrett, good to see you back.

Locrian perhaps has more application in Jazz than, say, metal, I would think.

Half-diminished chords (AKA, m7b5 - or, minor 7th with flat 5th) are one candidate.

It's might be worth pointing out that the flat 2nd is something of an "avoid note" in this case. A better scale to use over half dim chords might be the 6th mode of the melodic minor. The only difference between that and Locrian is that it doesn't have a flattened 2nd.

So, B Locrian would be:

B C D E F G A B

Whereas the 6th mode of melodic minor, transposed to B, would be:

B C# D E F G A B

The C# works well over a half-diminished chord.

Still, play the scale, internalise its sound, and you never know where you'll find a use for it.

[Phil Smith]

moley,

Locrian #2 is the sixth mode of the melodic minor scale, also known as half-diminished.

[moley]

Originally posted by Phil Smith
moley,

Locrian #2 is the sixth mode of the melodic minor scale, also known as half-diminished.

Ah crap, that'll teach me to post late at night.

You're right of course, I'll go correct that.

[Garrett Mireles]

Thanks...i THINK Locrian is the one I'm thinking of...there's no 5th degree..I'm trying to picture it..oh well

Yea figures, I don't like jazz, guess that's why I'm having trouble making use of it =P

[PollyBass]

Originally posted by Garrett Mireles
Yea figures, I don't like jazz, guess that's why I'm having trouble making use of it =P

Oh boy, look who signed their own TB death warrent.

[moley]

Originally posted by Garrett Mireles
Thanks...i THINK Locrian is the one I'm thinking of...there's no 5th degree..I'm trying to picture it..oh well

There is, but it's flattened. Locrian has the flat 5th, rather than the perfect 5th that all the other modes of the major scale have.

Yea figures, I don't like jazz, guess that's why I'm having trouble making use of it =P

Well then work out how you can fit it into the music you do like

[Pacman]

So don't use it.

Locrian is an available color, nothing more. If you were a painter, there's no rule that says you have to use red.

[Bruce Lindfield]

Originally posted by Garrett Mireles


Yea figures, I don't like jazz, guess that's why I'm having trouble making use of it =P

Not enough 'hoover-like' sounds for you eh?

[geshel]

I dig Locrian. It can sound sinister yet peppy - in a demented circus kind of way.

[Pacman]

Originally posted by Bruce Lindfield


Not enough 'hoover-like' sounds for you eh?

Me-ow, Bruce

[dabshire]

Is the Locrian mode in any way related to the "Tone-Locrian" mode?





"Funky Cold Medina"

[The Mock Turtle Regulator]

Originally posted by Bruce Lindfield

Not enough 'hoover-like' sounds for you eh?

-that you never actually heard

[fhodshon]

i'm a LYDIAN-Dominant kinda guy myself.

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[Phil Smith]

Originally posted by fhodshon
i'm a LYDIAN-Dominant kinda guy myself.

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Six of one, 4 of the other.

[Garrett Mireles]

Originally posted by PollyBass



Oh boy, look who signed their own TB death warrent.

That'd be you, if anything. Aren't we suppose to be open minded here?

So what if I don't like jazz...I don't yell at people who don't like classical. To each his own.

By the way, "warrant" is spelled w-a-r-r-a-n-t

[Garrett Mireles]

Originally posted by Bruce Lindfield


Not enough 'hoover-like' sounds for you eh?

Hey you bastard, I thought you left. Yeah, I'm a Dust Devil man myself

And Pacman

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. I was just trying to write a riff for each mode, and locrain was being a little whore

[fhodshon]

and locrain was being a little whore

just takes a little more work to "fit something in".

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