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Old 11-25-2006, 12:24 PM
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just got back from my bass lesson and feeling a bit uninspired.

I've been playing about 12 years mostly blues based stuff I guess..spent far too long noodling and working on technique with funk riffs and such and didn't have any theory knowledge so I decided to get a teacher to learn jazz. He taught me the basics of music theory - chords/appeggios/scales and modes and how the modes work over chords.
I don't know if my teacher was having a bad day today or whatever, but he couldn't really be bothered & didn't have any suggestions on how to move forward. just told me to work on the scales. bit of a waste of time really.
anyway, I'm either going to get a new teacher or just learn myself for a while.

Now that I kind of understand a little of the theory, I want a structure to work through to improve my playing.
does anyone have any suggestions?

here's where I'm at -

my strong point is playing by ear and being able to pick things up
technique/tone is pretty good. couple of bad habits, but I can work on that myself now I know what they are.

I need to work on knowing the fretboard inside out rather than just knowing a few tricks around the octave. the scales maybe will help that (that pacman scale method seems useful)

I want to learn interesting walking basslines for jazz. Some of the jazz basslines I hear are quite alien to me. why is that?
is it because they're using chord tones?
there's a lot I need to know in terms of theory still, but I feel like I need to take a course or something.
I know there's no easy way to improve apart from practice, but I dont want to fall into the trap of aimless noddling for years.
I want some kind of structure to learn from to eventually be able to confidently improvise jazz bass & learn some nice little jazz based runs for funk stuff.
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Old 11-25-2006, 01:46 PM
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Sometimes you need to just trust your teacher and do sand the floor and paint the fence. Do you like the way your teacher plays?

Is so, trust Mr. Miyagi and do sand the floor and paint the fence for a while and see if there's some improvement. Learning to play jazz doesn't happen over night or in a few lessons.
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Old 11-25-2006, 02:21 PM
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On the other hand, sometimes it's best to learn whatever you can from one teacher, and then move on. Different teachers will have different strengths. It's unlikely that you'd find a teacher who could continue to teach you indefinitely. Eventually you'll outgrow your teacher.

Maybe he was just having a bad day though.
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Old 11-25-2006, 03:48 PM
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yeah I like the way my teacher plays. He's very good. but I think he's having issues with his own playing & doubting his own teaching. he said that he's burnt out and needs to work on a lot of things himself. the lesson was awful.(I didn't get much out of the last one either)
he's a really nice guy, but I doubt I'll be going back. It was counterproductive.
it's not as if I'm not putting the effort in and expecting the teacher to magically make me a better player over night.
I just want structured exercises to help me put the scales/theory in context and maybe break apart walking jazz basslines/tracks to fully understand what's going on in there.
I mean, I can learn scales myself. I don't need a teacher for that.
oh well. cheers anyway.
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Old 11-25-2006, 10:41 PM
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Try this book. May be too simple for ya, maybe not.

Walking Jazz Lines for Bass
by Jay Hungerford and
published by Mel Bay
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