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10-01-2007, 12:36 PM
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ok, here's how I'd play an A major chord on bass:
G----2----
D----2----
A----4----
E----5----
that's if I want to strum the whole chord.
of course the position would be the same throughout ..
why does it sound so funky?
I like to play a 1 - 3 - 8 major chord quite a bit .. or a 1 - 5 - 8 and they sound ok .. but if I try the 1 - 3 - 5 - 8 it just sounds off.
Am I missing something here?
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10-01-2007, 12:42 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA | | | Someone explained it to me that since the bass notes are so low the close spacing of the notes ends up sounding a bit muddy. I think if you want to define a major chord (vs. a minor chord), the 5 isn't that necessary anyway in the grand scheme of things. The 1, 3 and the 7 (in the case of 4-note chords) are the most important. The 5 only comes into play for diminished and augmented chords.
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10-01-2007, 12:44 PM
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But when the notes are that low the HZ of the 1 and 3 (A and C#)are so close (55.00hz and 69.30hz) they will interfere with eachother more that when they are played higher. One octave higher the 1 and 3 (A and C#) (110.00hz and 138.60hz) are further apart and sound better.
Play it an octave higher
G----14----
D----14----
A----16----
E----17----
And you'll see what I mean.
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10-01-2007, 12:44 PM
| | Registered User Artist:TC Electronic RH450 bass system | | Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Fort Madison, IA | | | Try a double stop instead. Example for an A major chord 5th fret on the E srting, and 6th fret on the G string. Playing those 2 notes together will imply aan A major chord without muddying up the sound. I use this a lot in a 3 piece situation whe the guitarist takes a lead. You can imply a minor chord by lowering the note on the G string 1 fret. | 
10-01-2007, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by John Wentzien Try a double stop instead. Example for an A major chord 5th fret on the E srting, and 6th fret on the G string. Playing those 2 notes together will imply aan A major chord without muddying up the sound. I use this a lot in a 3 piece situation whe the guitarist takes a lead. You can imply a minor chord by lowering the note on the G string 1 fret. | +1
this is an even better way to do it.
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10-01-2007, 12:48 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2004 Location: St. Louis, MO, U.S. | | | Playing 1-8-10 or sometimes 1-5-8-10 chords is another good bass option. When those notes collide in a high register they shimmer, but when they collide a few octaves lower the shimmer turns into a rumble that your amp probably doesn't reproduce clearly anyway.
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10-01-2007, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by John Wentzien Try a double stop instead. Example for an A major chord 5th fret on the E srting, and 6th fret on the G string. Playing those 2 notes together will imply aan A major chord without muddying up the sound. I use this a lot in a 3 piece situation whe the guitarist takes a lead. You can imply a minor chord by lowering the note on the G string 1 fret. | hrm, sounds like an interesting idea .. that's the third up from the next octave isn't it?
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10-01-2007, 12:53 PM
| | Registered User Artist:TC Electronic RH450 bass system | | Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Fort Madison, IA | | | Just hit the root , and the 3rd an octave higher. | 
10-01-2007, 12:58 PM
| | Registered User Artist:TC Electronic RH450 bass system | | Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Fort Madison, IA | | | If I play this above the 12th fret I'll throw in the 5th on the A string to fatten up the chord. | 
10-01-2007, 01:54 PM
| | | | How are you playing the 3rd and the 5th?
I thought they were on the same string, unless you have large fingers or you are playing them with open strings.
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10-01-2007, 01:59 PM
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G----2----
D----2----
A----4----
E----5----
would be the same as:
G--------
D----7----
A----47----
E----5----
it's a hard strech on the lower frets .. but I can make it personally 
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10-01-2007, 02:05 PM
| | | | Hmmm, yeah you are right.
It's pretty easy for me to get there.
After playing a 7 string bass, one develops good stretched muscles.
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10-01-2007, 02:05 PM
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G----6----
D----x----
A----x----
E----5----
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10-01-2007, 08:29 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Hattiesburg, Mississippi | | | Or how about (Amaj7)
G--6
D--6
A-(4)opt.
E--5
Or for upper range (Emaj add9)
G--13
D--16
A--14
E--12
or (Emaj6)
G--6
D--6
A--7
E--x | 
10-01-2007, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by stedtale Play it an octave higher
G----14----
D----14----
A----16----
E----17----
And you'll see what I mean. | +1. Notes that are close together always sound muddy when they are very low. That's why you won't see a lot of piano parts with huge chords in the very low range, they're usually just octaves, or higher up. I too play chords on BG up the octave; I like the tone I get and the notes are a lot clearer. | 
10-01-2007, 08:52 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: MD | | | If you want the A in that register, play the third displaced an octave. It sounds much better. It sounds even better an octave up.
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