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Old 08-05-2011, 11:18 AM
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Major Scale Question?

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I was wondering if this applies to all scales....
G|------------------|
D|-----------2-4-5--|
A|-----2-3-5--------|
E|-3-5--------------|

Like if that fingering of Middle, Pinky, Index, Middle, Pinky, Index, Ring, and Pinky applies to all Major scales so long as the first note is the root note. It seems like it would work but I'm not that versed in Music Theory and such...

Also, if this concept applies to other scales as well/what are they?
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Old 08-05-2011, 11:20 AM
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Yep. That's called a scale pattern.
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Old 08-05-2011, 11:40 AM
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If you are playing in standard tuning,all scales,arpeggios,patterns,etc. Are movable. After you get the pattern down,it's important to learn what the notes are in each scale,that way you don't have to rely on a pattern.
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Itis all explained very well here:

One Octave Major Scale
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Old 08-05-2011, 12:25 PM
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Sweet....what is the scale pattern for other types of scales (ie Minor)?
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Old 08-05-2011, 12:31 PM
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The link fearceol posted is good site for you to spend some time. It has other types of scales broken down and other theory.
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Old 08-05-2011, 01:49 PM
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welcome to G major

that same shape across the fingerboard is a major scale.
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Sweet....what is the scale pattern for other types of scales (ie Minor)?
Take that same pattern and modify it for your minor scale, i.e. flat the 3, 6 and 7 and you now have the natural minor scale R-2-b3-4-5-b6-b7. Just place the root note and let the pattern automatically give your the needed notes.

Code:
Major Scale Box.

G|---2---|-------|---3---|---4---| 1st string
D|---6---|-------|---7---|---8---|
A|---3---|---4---|-------|---5---|
E|-------|---R---|-------|---2---|4th string

Place the root (R) on the C note 4th string 8th fret and the C major scale await you.
Place the root (R) on the C note and play the R-3-5 and you have just played the notes of the C major chord aka C arpeggio.

You can use that pattern for chords as well as scales. That pattern opened a new World for me. Hope you enjoy it.

Basic Chords
Major Triad = R-3-5
Minor Triad = R-b3-5
Diminished Chord = R-b3-b5

7th Chords
Maj7 = R-3-5-7
Minor 7 = R-b3-5-b7
Dominant 7 = R-3-5-b7
½ diminished = R-b3-b5-b7
Full diminished = R-b3-b5-bb7

Scales
Major Pentatonic = R-2-3-5-6
Minor Pentatonic = R-b3-4-5-b7
Blues = R-b3-4-b5-5-b7
Major Scale = R-2-3-4-5-6-7
Natural Minor Scale = R-2-b3-4-5-b6-b7
Harmonic Minor Scale = R-2-b3-4-5-b6-7
Melodic Minor Scale = R-2-b3-4-5-6-7

Generic Notes.
The root, five and eight are generic and fit most any chord. Remember the diminished has a flatted 5.
The 3 is generic to all major chords. See a major chord R-3-5-8 is a generic bass line that will work.
The b3 is generic to all minor chords. See a minor chord R-b3-5-8 is a generic bass line that will work.
The 7 is generic to all maj7 chords. R-3-5-7.
The b7 is generic to all dominant seventh and minor seventh chords. R-3-5-b7 or R-b3-5-b7.
The 6 is neutral and adds color, help yourself to 6’s. I like R-3-5-6 for major chords. Has a great sound.
The 2 and 4 make good passing notes. Don’t linger on them or stop on them, keep them passing.
In making your bass line help yourself to those notes, just use them correctly.
Remember roots, fives, eights and the correct 3 will play a lot of bass.

Have fun.

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Ricci Adams' Musictheory.net

That's the Major
G|------------------|
D|-----------2-4-5--|
A|-----2-3-5--------|
E|-3-5--------------|

Natural Minor
G|------------------|
D|-------------3-5--|
A|-------3-5-6------|
E|-3-5-6------------|

Harmonic Minor

G|------------------|
D|-------------4-5--|
A|-------3-5-6------|
E|-3-5-6------------|

The Melodic minor is a bit more complicated, because it is one pattern ascending and another descending.
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Take that same pattern and modify it for your minor scale, i.e. flat the 3, 6 and 7 and you now have the natural minor scale R-2-b3-4-5-b6-b7. Just place the root note and let the pattern automatically give your the needed notes.

Code:
Major Scale Box.

G|---2---|-------|---3---|---4---| 1st string
D|---6---|-------|---7---|---8---|
A|---3---|---4---|-------|---5---|
E|-------|---R---|-------|---2---|4th string

Place the root (R) on the C note 4th string 8th fret and the C major scale await you.
Place the root (R) on the C note and play the R-3-5 and you have just played the notes of the C major chord aka C arpeggio.

You can use that pattern for chords as well as scales. That pattern opened a new World for me. Hope you enjoy it.

Basic Chords
Major Triad = R-3-5
Minor Triad = R-b3-5
Diminished Chord = R-b3-b5

7th Chords
Maj7 = R-3-5-7
Minor 7 = R-b3-5-b7
Dominant 7 = R-3-5-b7
½ diminished = R-b3-b5-b7
Full diminished = R-b3-b5-bb7

Scales
Major Pentatonic = R-2-3-5-6
Minor Pentatonic = R-b3-4-5-b7
Blues = R-b3-4-b5-5-b7
Major Scale = R-2-3-4-5-6-7
Natural Minor Scale = R-2-b3-4-5-b6-b7
Harmonic Minor Scale = R-2-b3-4-5-b6-7
Melodic Minor Scale = R-2-b3-4-5-6-7

Generic Notes.
The root, five and eight are generic and fit most any chord. Remember the diminished has a flatted 5.
The 3 is generic to all major chords. See a major chord R-3-5-8 is a generic bass line that will work.
The b3 is generic to all minor chords. See a minor chord R-b3-5-8 is a generic bass line that will work.
The 7 is generic to all maj7 chords. R-3-5-7.
The b7 is generic to all dominant seventh and minor seventh chords. R-3-5-b7 or R-b3-5-b7.
The 6 is neutral and adds color, help yourself to 6’s. I like R-3-5-6 for major chords. Has a great sound.
The 2 and 4 make good passing notes. Don’t linger on them or stop on them, keep them passing.
In making your bass line help yourself to those notes, just use them correctly.
Remember roots, fives, eights and the correct 3 will play a lot of bass.

Have fun.
Great post!
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Old 08-05-2011, 03:06 PM
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Once you get a handle on a few of the movable scale patterns, and want to take it to the next level,
by which I mean knowing the notes you play and being able to find them all over the neck,
it will pay off tremendously to spend a month or two working through Pac Man's sure fire scale practice method.
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