Metal in C?

[beyondhairy]

listen to "death"

the band, not the genre, they arent death metal thoug, they are trash,

get the album "symbolic" awesome bass in there, two tracks to check out are "crystal mountain" and "without judgment"


dont look up any live videos or youtube or anything, the live versions of them arent too great.

[Unknowndude]

Originally Posted by 4FretlessMetal

Oh and for God's sake do not listen to Coheed and Cambria if your gonna play metal, there is enough queer emo trying to influence good metal as it is.

Coheed isn't metal but it sure as hell isn't "queer emo".

[4FretlessMetal]

granted I was exagerating a bit but you get the point. Absolutley agree that a good metal bassist is the determing factor for whether a metal band is brutal and makes great lasting music, or is just another so so band.

[BrandonBass]

Originally Posted by 4FretlessMetal

granted I was exagerating a bit but you get the point. Absolutley agree that a good metal bassist is the determing factor for whether a metal band is brutal and makes great lasting music, or is just another so so band.

erm thats not true. around 90% of the metal bassists just double the rhythm guitar.

there's not much creavity you can show in such a straight forward genre

ciff burton did a bass solo, and had one or 2 songs liek for whom the bell tolls which has a memorable bassline and hes regarding one of the best metal players.... steve harris gallop is pretty straightforward too

[Amenra]

Originally Posted by 4FretlessMetal

Oh and for God's sake do not listen to Coheed and Cambria if your gonna play metal, there is enough queer emo trying to influence good metal as it is.

What is it these days with bashing the whole "emo" scene. I'm not a big fan of genres. If the music is good, it's ok by me, never mind which genre it's in. Coheed and Cambria make great songs and have a great bassplayer.

just my two cents

[69nites]

Limiting yourself to what other bassists have done is limiting yourself IMHO. I think it's good that you have no clue how to construct a metal bassline. I would try it first mess around with it. If you're doing bad with it then I'd start looking at what others have done before you. You never know a new perspective can give a band a whole special flavor. I'm sure you've heard metal before. When you hear what's needed add it. You may decide to start with just roots and improvise from there. You may do something totally different. I think you should always try to figure stuff like this out on your own before looking for help.

[diechris]

Originally Posted by Amenra

What is it these days with bashing the whole "emo" scene. I'm not a big fan of genres. If the music is good, it's ok by me, never mind which genre it's in. Coheed and Cambria make great songs and have a great bassplayer.

just my two cents

i would bash "emo" because i personally cant stand the genre.. i do think if the music is good then no matter what the genre.. its still good music.. i couldnt get into anything ive heard from the genre let alone stand the crowds that they bring..

also coheed HAD a bass player.. he left..

i currently dont do much bashing... as i am dating a girl that loves the music... so i got over "hating" it and just let it go as i would any other subject that i dont care for and say its not my cup or tea.. did i sell out? no... its called compromise..

[4FretlessMetal]

Originally Posted by BrandonBass

erm thats not true. around 90% of the metal bassists just double the rhythm guitar.

there's not much creavity you can show in such a straight forward genre

Exactly and that 10% who don't, make their band 10x better, good for you, just keep thinking in side that little box of your's you'll go far

Originally Posted by Amenra

What is it these days with bashing the whole "emo" scene. I'm not a big fan of genres. If the music is good, it's ok by me, never mind which genre it's in. Coheed and Cambria make great songs and have a great bassplayer.

just my two cents

well because efeminent males make me sick in general, now don't get me wrong I'm not bashing them on their objective musical talent, how ever subjectivley I hate them and their music, oh and I love genre's, it's just how our brains work (e.g. prototyping)


[quote=SMASH;3716672]Or maybe you're just in the wrong band?
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best advice yet, do what you think is a good metal bassline and if they don't like it tell them to f*ck off, nothing more metal than that! \m/

[Depth_Charge]

Originally Posted by 4FretlessMetal

best advice yet, do what you think is a good metal bassline and if they don't like it tell them to **** off, nothing more metal than that! \m/

That might be "metal", but in an original band where you're not the songwriter it's also a good way to be shown the door, possibly in an equally "metal" manner.

I think the best advice is to ask those who don't like what you're playing to describe what it is they do like. If you don't or can't give them that then the reality is you are wasting their time, and in a lot of respects your own time too, and you may end up with a reputation for being stubborn about sharing creativity and end up with that reputation preceeding you or even cutting you out of future auditions. . .

[ericmonster_tm]

Hello.

Our band tunes to C. We sound nothing like any of the bands listed, except say the earlier thrash bands (like Megadeth, early metallica, etc.). We have been told we sound like High On Fire vs Slayer. Our common influences our people like The Sword, High On Fire, Black Sabbath, The Hellacopters, Mastodon, Deathbreath, Venom, Pentagram...we kinda fall somewhere in there. Kinda of a 'stoner metal meets early thrash' type feel.

I always play with a pick. Depending on the style of metal, most bass lines in the harder stuff just follow the guitar line. Metal bassist normally dont stand out too much, unless your like Les Claypool or Cliff Burton.

Most Sabbath stuff was tuned to C#. The Sword tunes to C.

I play medium gauge Fender strings. 7150ML's I also play SIT strings.

I've noticed you have to have a bit of a lighter touch when plucking the strings.

You might check your amp settings and EQ. The strings are cycling lower to create those lower frequencies.

The problem I seem to have is the last 5 fret's on the E (C) string just dont come out of my amp right.

I've narrowed it down to a freq. response issue in which I am researching 18's and 15's at the moment.

[WillBuckingham]

Originally Posted by ericmonster_tm

I've narrowed it down to a freq. response issue in which I am researching 18's and 15's at the moment.

? What are you using now?

[ericmonster_tm]

Sunn 1200s and an Ampeg BSE410HLF. Playing a G&L SB-2.