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Old 02-25-2012, 06:14 PM
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Double flat or sharp don't exist in key signature. If you need a note to be double flat or sharp it will be written in front of that note in music sheet.
Correct. I should have said choosing a key where a double flat or sharp is necessary every time a particular note is encountered (like in the key of G sharp, for example, every F would have to be double sharp - except for "accidental" instances of F#).
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Old 02-25-2012, 06:16 PM
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A# minor is fine as a natural minor, but really confusing as a melodic minor:

A# B# C# D# E# F## G## A#

Whereas Bb minor as a melodic minor reads:

Bb C Db Eb F G A Bb

I know which one I'd rather read.
Yeah, me too. Then again, if you read my post, you'll see I was referring to the key, rather than scales.
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Old 02-25-2012, 06:23 PM
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I've played my fair share of tunes in Db - it works great for the horns - altos in Bb and tenor/'bone in Eb. If I had to play the same tunes and they were written in C#, I'd have to think about it (it's been about 10 years since my last jazz gig, so the memorization has probably worn off).
I've played quite a lot of charts in Db too - common in jazz and big band stuff. I agree, it's not so bad.

By the way, concert Db major would put trumpets and tenor saxes in Eb and alto and baritone saxes in Bb. Trombones would be in Db as they're usually non-transposing (there are some occasional exceptions to this, I believe, but I've not had to deal with those myself).
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Clearly I've never scored for big band.

I just asked my wife who played 'bone in high school and she said it was in C. So yeah, I meant trumpet.
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Old 02-26-2012, 12:47 AM
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Ok i think i understand it...It`s basically all about ...form, like in written language...you can write name of the band : U2 or you can write You Two...it will sound the same...but we all know what band is U2 ...people would have a problem if you would try to explain to them that you are listening to You Two or you Too ..

Thanks all for your patience and help
PS. this is article on Wikipedia about A# minor and they state it has 7 sharps
On top of that its relative Major (C # major also have 7 sharps)
ps2 Jesus it will take a while to grasp those damn accidentals :P
A-sharp minor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


you got it! you picked a challenging and confusing scale when it comes to nomeclature in the A#/ C# world.

A# minor prolly is easier on the eyes as Bb minor ...Bb C Dd Eb F Gb Ab but if a tune is written in #s ....you're stuck with it!

edit....actually Bb minor wouldn't be my choice of easy key to work in either LOL .....how about A minor!?
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Yeah, me too. Then again, if you read my post, you'll see I was referring to the key, rather than scales.
It wasn't meant as a reply to your post specifically.

I play a lot of theatre, jazz and classical music on horns. Minor keys in these contexts tend to employ a lot of mixed modal borrow. Melodic minor, harmonic minor, natural minor...whether or not you're playing scales, there will be uses of raised sixth and seventh degrees. And in A# minor, that means double sharps.
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