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Old 02-06-2011, 05:38 PM
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Hi all,

I have learned the standard modes in 2 octaves.

I would like suggestions of specific songs (rock genre preferred) that use each scale. I want to work on the application, learning the feel as well as the improvisation of each scale, and the best way to do that is to learn existing music. Naturally I'm fine with Ionian and Natural Minor, but the other ones, I'm flailing around in the dark. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Ionian
Dorian
Phyrgian
Lydian
Myxolidian
Aeolian
Locrian.
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Old 02-06-2011, 05:57 PM
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Not exactly rock but Herbie Hancock and later stuff by Miles Davis are 2 that are definately worth checking out.
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Old 02-06-2011, 08:20 PM
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Not exactly rock but Herbie Hancock and later stuff by Miles Davis are 2 that are definately worth checking out.
It's jazz fusion, so it's got rock elements in it.

Another recommendation, if you're also into jazz, is Miles Davis' album, Kind of Blue. This, however, has no rock elements in it, it's simply modal jazz.
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Old 02-06-2011, 08:24 PM
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Not exactly what you're looking for, but something you might be interested in trying: Mick Goodrick's book, The Advancing Guitarist, has modal vamps to jam on for each mode. You'd need a guitarist or piano player to record them.
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... I would like suggestions of specific songs (rock genre preferred) that use each scale. I want to work on the application, learning the feel as well as the improvisation of each scale, and the best way to do that is to learn existing music. Naturally I'm fine with Ionian and Natural Minor, but the other ones, I'm flailing around in the dark. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Found this on Google http://www.jamtracksforguitar.com/ja...ks_modes3.html
Did not purchase any of them so have no idea how they sound - or will they give you the chords used - that's important. $14 and you will know. I bet there is something on the Internet for free if you want to spend the time looking. So much of this will depend on the progression or modal vamp being used that I really would want to know the chords being used in the example, in advance, so I could work out different bass lines that would capture the mood.

Your question asked for specific songs, that's what you need or something labeled as being Dorian or Mixolydian, etc. I can not help with that.

You mentioned; ".... flailing around in the dark". Getting the modal mood is dictated by what chords are under the notes. IMHO - That's where you need to be looking.
  • Ionian - major up beat happy mood. Here the normal chord progression I IV V will work. Kinda hard to make the major scale anything beyond what it is - modes are modes of - the major scale....... Go ahead with a normal progression.
  • Lydian - major dreamy mood. Vamp of the I tonic chord with a second chord having a #4 note. There will be at least two choices most times three. Picking the "best" second chord is what your wanting to experiment with.
  • Mixolydian - major Latin & Blues mood. Vamp of the I tonic chord with a second chord having a b7 note. Here again there will/may be several choices for the second chord.... Now, so much of this depends on what the rest of the band is doing. If the rest of the guys are not using a modal vamp - Kings X - that's another story. The modal mood is not going to develop.
  • Aeolian - minor sad mood. Here the normal chord progression of i iv v or ii V i perhaps a vamp with i and the second chord having a b6 note. Again there will/may be more than one chord with a b6....
  • Dorian - minor attractive jazz mood. Modal vamp of i with the second chord having a natural 6 in it. Pick which one. If there is a trick to this it's picking that second chord.
  • Phrygian - minor exotic, Spanish mood. Modal vamp of i with second chord having the b2 in it. Pick which one.
  • Locrian - diminished dark and tense mood. A one cord vamp (drone) of the minor diminished chord m7b5 works best under Locrian.
My point - with out a vamp the modal mood will never develop - a chord progression will keep calling attention to the tonal center. So use a vamp and experiment with which second chord to use in the vamp.

http://www.riddleworks.com/modalharm3.html This goes into detail on what is talked about above.


Good luck.

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For Dorian there is the famous Miles Davis's tune So What.

But to work exclusively on modes I suggest you get from Aebersold the play- along Miles of Modes which is #124 I think. This is the best I have found so far to practice your modes in a playing situation.

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Miles of Modes is volume 116. Go to www.jazzbooks.com. Lots of great stuff there, but the "Miles of Modes is directly to your question.
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Miles of Modes is volume 116. Go to www.jazzbooks.com. Lots of great stuff there, but the "Miles of Modes is directly to your question.
Yes thanks, it is #116. My mistake, I didn't have it with me, it is at school ;-)
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