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Old 05-23-2009, 10:22 PM
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Question Modes in every key?

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I think I might be over-complicating this, but its a nice little practice for my sight reading.

I know how to PLAY the modes on the bass. However, I'm new to writing in standard notation, so I'm starting off with diatonic modes to begin with.

I tried putting the Dorian Mode into the Circle of Fifths, using D as the starting point instead of C.
Then tried doing the same for the Phygian Mode, with E instead of C.

The Dorian Mode didn't give me any problems. But when I got to the Phygian I ran into trouble once I got past A#. The last stop on the circle would be F on bass, but in standard notation it looks like it would be D#X. But neither F or D#X (if that even exists, X being 2 sharps) exist on the sharps for the Phygian mode at the last position [F#, C#, G#, D#, A#, E#, B#]

Am I way off point by trying to put it into the Circle of Fifths? Should I just simply put it in every key, going A, A#, B, C, C# ect ect ? If the Circle of Fifths isn't the way to go about doing it, what's the best way to practice the modes and scales in every key?


Sorry if this is hard to understand, and thanks ahead of time for any help!


-Troy
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Old 05-23-2009, 10:51 PM
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Practice your scales going through fifths. And if you're getting an extraneous amount of sharps, that's because the key signature is supposed to be a flat key. What you're naming as A# Phrygian is better labeled Bb Phrygian. Just practice your scales through the cycle of fifths and you'll be fine. And remember scales are about context.Think chord-scale relationships. Try playing scales through ii-V progressions and standards to better understand their function.
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Old 05-23-2009, 11:11 PM
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Practice your scales going through fifths. And if you're getting an extraneous amount of sharps, that's because the key signature is supposed to be a flat key. What you're naming as A# Phrygian is better labeled Bb Phrygian. Just practice your scales through the cycle of fifths and you'll be fine. And remember scales are about context.Think chord-scale relationships. Try playing scales through ii-V progressions and standards to better understand their function.
I think I get it. Even though I'm going through 5ths, which is usually sharps, Bb would be better than A#. And the same thing if I was going through 4ths, but for flats, right?

So basically, the notes on the Circle of Fifths would always be the same, no matter what Mode or key is in place of C. Am I on the right track here?

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