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Old 04-08-2010, 03:03 PM
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If you want to build modes from any root heres the interval patterns!

Ionian (maj scale)= whole, whole, half, whole, whole, whole, half

Aeolian (min scale)= whole, half, whole, whole, half, whole, whole

Dorian= whole, half, whole, whole, whole, half, whole

Phrygian= half, whole, whole, whole, half, whole, whole

Lydian= whole, whole, whole, half, whole, whole, half

Mixolydian= whole, whole, half, whole, whole, half, whole

Locrian= half, whole, whole, half, whole, whole, whole

Write this down this is one of my best notes I keep! its like a quick and easy secret to making modes haha
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If you want to build modes from any root heres the interval patterns!

Ionian (maj scale)= whole, whole, half, whole, whole, whole, half

Aeolian (min scale)= whole, half, whole, whole, half, whole, whole

Dorian= whole, half, whole, whole, whole, half, whole

Phrygian= half, whole, whole, whole, half, whole, whole

Lydian= whole, whole, whole, half, whole, whole, half

Mixolydian= whole, whole, half, whole, whole, half, whole

Locrian= half, whole, whole, half, whole, whole, whole

Write this down this is one of my best notes I keep! its like a quick and easy secret to making modes haha
That's easy??
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if you write it dow and memorize them if you want to..if not use the note as a reference yeah its as easy as i can think to make it right now haha
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inaccurate and too simplistic and doesn't explain why they're formed that way. sorry. even if it was accurate, this chart would exist in a vacuum without all the other info. there's a reason you don't break modes down to these simplistic formulas without explaining the background.
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Old 04-09-2010, 01:13 AM
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Here's something that may flesh this out a little for those interested...

Bassy Bill's Beginners' Basic guide to scales and modes
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That's easy??
+1.

My eyes glazed over half way through reading that.
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I have designed something to REALLY make modes easy. It's a one page document, but I don't know where to publish it. If someone would like to put it on a website, please write me a PM.
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If you have trouble memorizing them here's an idea

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Studying chord progressions has proven much more useful to me learning music theory than just learning modes. Learning how to play (jazz walking) over changes like 1-4-5, 2-5-1, 3-6-2-5-1 changes is really important and more practical than just learning modes. It is the tonal relationship of the notes within the key or song that make music happen. Modes are one way of learning this relationship but ultimately it is how these tonal relationships are put together in a piece of music and how we as bass players can create a flowing groove through these tonal changes is what is most important IMHO
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inaccurate and too simplistic and doesn't explain why they're formed that way. sorry. even if it was accurate, this chart would exist in a vacuum without all the other info. there's a reason you don't break modes down to these simplistic formulas without explaining the background.
like i said..made easy haha these are just the interval mode patterns without getting into EVERYTHING. i left out what parts of the scales move around given the mode youre in and what moods they make..this is just the interval pattern and nothing more
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like i said..made easy haha these are just the interval mode patterns without getting into EVERYTHING. i left out what parts of the scales move around given the mode youre in and what moods they make..this is just the interval pattern and nothing more
Just curious, what do you use modes for? Do you play a lot of choruses and soloes? Do you write melodies?
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I have designed something to REALLY make modes easy. It's a one page document, but I don't know where to publish it. If someone would like to put it on a website, please write me a PM.
You could try http://www.scribd.com/. Not sure what file types it dis/allows.
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I have no problem learning the order of the modes. It is the actual mode itself that is hard to remember. Instead of just memorising patterns ( W,W, H, etc ), my teacher has me memorising the sound of the mode. After a while your ear tells you what mode you are playing. It's no harder than learning patterns, but much more beneficial. I cant yet recognise all the modes by their sound, but I'm nearly there.
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Studying chord progressions has proven much more useful to me learning music theory than just learning modes. Learning how to play (jazz walking) over changes like 1-4-5, 2-5-1, 3-6-2-5-1 changes is really important and more practical than just learning modes. It is the tonal relationship of the notes within the key or song that make music happen. Modes are one way of learning this relationship but ultimately it is how these tonal relationships are put together in a piece of music and how we as bass players can create a flowing groove through these tonal changes is what is most important IMHO
+1.

As I mentioned in another thread, I have been learning with some of Carol Kaye's books and DVD's. She endorses this approach.
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Just curious, what do you use modes for? Do you play a lot of choruses and soloes? Do you write melodies?
Sacre bleu! Don't you know that modes improve your groove and feel?

Geez. If you don't know modes you don't know 75% of music theory.

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Just curious, what do you use modes for? Do you play a lot of choruses and soloes? Do you write melodies?
yeah i do play a lot of melodies and solos! i also use em for effect. like Phrygian is good for egyptian and middle eastern types of sounds..its exotic! Lydian is greek (not that that matters haha) but it has a dreamy, floaty relaxed major sound. Mixolydian sounds almost hispanic if that makes sense. Locrian is very dark and intense! So i liek that one a lot haha but you get the drift. you just have to play with them. also its nice to know modes if you liek to improv a lot it gives you something else to play with. like focusing on keeping your improv in a certain mode to keep you technical while you improv (it can be a fun game that makes you better no matter how good you are!) but yeah modes have endless possibilities
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Actually Mark's original post makes more sense to me than any of the others.

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