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Old 06-30-2007, 06:57 PM
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Modes (Trying to understand)

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So here I am, and I finally found what I think explains modes and when to play them.

http://www.cyberfret.com/theory/modes/101/page5.php

Just get get this straight, the diagram recommends that if the Guitarist is playing in C Major, and moved to D (ii), it will sound reasonably good if I play Dorian, E (iii) then I will play Phrygian, and so on?

Did I get this right or am I still on a search for understanding when to use modes?
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Old 06-30-2007, 07:20 PM
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yeah thats the crux of it. if you build a chord off the ii in a major scale you'll get a minor chord, so in C the ii is a D minor. the scale that goes with the ii is the dorian scale. and as you can see, that scale has a b3 and a b7 so thats why you get a minor chord! however it also has a NORMAL six, so its not the same scale as the normal minor scale.

allot of people to start with think, oh its a minor chord, so i can use the minor scale. but in pieces that are quite harmonically stable, ie they stay within one key for each section etc, you will probably find that the b6 in the minor scale played over the ii chord sounds wrong or out of place.

so yes, you would use the dorian. and as you say the phyrigian for E, the lydian for F and so on.

so you have the basics of how to use modes nailed, well done! theres allot more you can expand too, but for now just get used to thinking those modes as you go through a chord progression so that its second nature!
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Old 06-30-2007, 09:02 PM
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So here I am, and I finally found what I think explains modes and when to play them.

http://www.cyberfret.com/theory/modes/101/page5.php

Just get get this straight, the diagram recommends that if the Guitarist is playing in C Major, and moved to D (ii), it will sound reasonably good if I play Dorian, E (iii) then I will play Phrygian, and so on?

Did I get this right or am I still on a search for understanding when to use modes?

Cyberfret has a bass site also

http://www.cyberfretbass.com/theory/modes/101/page5.php

Other good mode site is

http://www.cyberschoolofbass.com/
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Old 06-30-2007, 09:03 PM
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IT was soo simple! I feel so stupid now.

Ahh well, I learned alot today. It was well worth it. I am going to work on a few songs I have been stuck on now. Cheers!
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Old 07-01-2007, 03:45 AM
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IT was soo simple! I feel so stupid now.

Ahh well, I learned alot today. It was well worth it. I am going to work on a few songs I have been stuck on now. Cheers!

Everything seems simple after you've mastered it.

A site I found good all round is : www.studybass.com
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