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Old 06-19-2005, 08:24 AM
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I dont really know any proper name for this but my neck was "closed" when i woke up this morning and i cant do much, it hurts and i'm not able to play bass so i thought i could learn some more theory.

I know some basics:

-Scales and modes and over what chord the fit.

-Chords, minor and major, 6ths,7ths, 5ths and how they are built up.

-And a little bit of reading.

I would like to learn chord proggressions, like i have heard about IV, V, VI, VII, what is this? just 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th chords?
I have heard people tlak about "after VII chord then usually a hmmmhmmmm chord comes"

What some common chord proggressions?

I know steve harris usually plays whole tones like, D to C to bB to C...

what other theory should i learn?

please post some websites where i can easily print out theory that i can read whie resting...
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When you say your neck is closed, do you mean your throat? If so, I think you may have a problem which you need to address quite urgently before you busy yourself with learning any more music theory.
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Old 06-20-2005, 02:21 AM
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Here's something worth learning. These are fretboard chord and scale charts.

N = Nut
1 = Fret 1

Code:
C Diatonic      Cmaj7  Dm7    Em7    Fmaj7  G7     Am7    Bm7b5
Major Scale

   EADG
   0000	        ||||   ||||   ||||   ||||   ||||   ||||  ||||
N  ----	        ----   ----   ----   ----   ----   ----  ----
1  0|||         ||||   ||||   ||||   ||||   ||||   ||||  ||||
2  |000	        ||0|   ||||   ||||   ||||   ||||   ||||  |0|0
3  000|	        |0||   ||0|   ||||   ||||   ||||   ||||  ||0|
4  |||0	        |||0   ||||   ||||   ||||   ||||   ||||  ||||
5  0000         ||||   |0|0   ||0|   ||||   ||||   ||||  ||||
6  ||||         ||||   ||||   ||||   ||||   ||||   ||||  ||||
7  0000         ||||   ||||   |0|0   ||0|   ||||   ||||  ||||
8  00||         ||||   ||||   ||||   |0||   ||||   ||||  ||||
9  ||00         ||||   ||||   ||||   |||0   ||0|   ||||  ||||
10 0000         ||||   ||||   ||||   ||||   |0|0   ||0|  ||||
11 ||||         ||||   ||||   ||||   ||||   ||||   ||||  ||||
12 0000         ||||   ||||   ||||   ||||   ||||   |0|0  ||||
It sounds like you've got all the basics you need. It's like that saying - "It's not what you've got, but how you use it".

Also, If anyone has got a problem with it - email me. You know who you are

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I would like to learn chord proggressions, like i have heard about IV, V, VI, VII, what is this?
These are refering to chords within a given key. I being the first chord, IV being the fourth. You will see them written in lower case letters often as well, that indicates a minor chord (ii or vi for example).
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Old 06-21-2005, 09:01 PM
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N = Nut
1 = Fret One
Code:
C Diatonic      C Ion  D Dor  E Phry  F Lyd  G Mixo  A Aeol  B Loc
Major Scale

   EADG
   0000	        ||||   ||||   ||||    ||||   ||||    |000    ||||
N  ----	        ----   ----   ----    ----   ----    ----    ----
1  0|||         ||||   ||||   ||||    ||||   ||||    ||||    ||||
2  |000	        ||00   ||||   ||||    ||||   ||||    |000    |000
3  000|	        |00|   ||||   ||||    ||||   ||||    |00|    |00|
4  |||0	        |||0   |||0   ||||    ||||   ||||    ||||    |||0
5  0000         |000   |000   ||||    ||||   ||||    ||||    |00|
6  ||||         ||||   ||||   ||||    ||||   ||||    ||||    ||||
7  0000         ||||   |000   |000    ||00   ||||    ||||    ||||
8  00||         ||||   |0||   |0||    |0||   ||||    ||||    ||||
9  ||00         ||||   ||||   ||00    ||00   ||00    ||||    ||||
10 0000         ||||   ||||   |00|    |000   |000    ||||    ||||
11 ||||         ||||   ||||   ||||    ||||   ||||    ||||    ||||
12 0000         ||||   ||||   ||||    ||||   |000    ||||    ||||

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Old 06-21-2005, 09:42 PM
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THAT....is the coolest music site I've seen in a long, long time.

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+2 on this website! Bigtime! Go there! Do it! There is stuff there that even advanced music students can benefit from.

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Old 06-22-2005, 07:46 PM
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Here's something worth learning. These are fretboard chord and scale charts.

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It sounds like you've got all the basics you need. It's like that saying - "It's not what you've got, but how you use it".

Also, If anyone has got a problem with it - email me. You know who you are
I was just practicing all the triads and 7th chords in of C Major in ascending and descending order today. While the ascending part was mostly easy, the descending part caught me a few times.

Kind of odd I see your charts after reacquainting myself with the basics in today's practice. I see it as a sign.

Now to practice ascending & descending triads & 7th chords for every scale/mode over the next few weeks. Should burn the scales into my brain and solidify my remebance of the fretboard at the same time.

Once I have this down I'll start alternating the chord tones (1-5-3-7 instead of 1-3-5-7 or 7-5-3-1 for example). I'm hoping this will get all the chord stuff under my nails and get some new sounds in my head.
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Here's another theory site: --> http://www.petethomas.co.uk/jazz-theory.html
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Old 06-27-2005, 07:35 PM
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Here's a site my local university recomends:

http://www.teoria.com/
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Here's a site my local university recomends:

http://www.teoria.com/
That's a pretty cool site! I like the interval training tool.
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