Need help with ear training and hearing Minor 6ths/7ths,major 6ths

[Vacume]

Ive been useing http://www.teoria.com to help me with ear training. Ive been useing their excersize to identify intervals and I feel pretty good about most of the intervals but I ALWAYS get mixed up between my Minor 6ths/7ths and major 6ths. any advice on how to overcome this? tips on ear training in general? thanks alot TB!

[Ed Fuqua]

Do you sing any of these exercises?

[somegeezer]

Practise.

[bassics1975]

Originally Posted by Vacume

Ive been useing http://www.teoria.com to help me with ear training. Ive been useing their excersize to identify intervals and I feel pretty good about most of the intervals but I ALWAYS get mixed up between my Minor 6ths/7ths and major 6ths. any advice on how to overcome this? tips on ear training in general? thanks alot TB!

I am a high school music teacher and this is a part of the curriculum. Do you own a piano or keyboard? A strategy that works with many students is to identify intervals in the context of a piece of music. A major sixth for example: the first two notes of "Days of Wine and Roses". Give it a try and see if this helps.

[Angus]

And then back to where Master Fuqua was going: sing, sing, sing.

Identifying songs with similar tones will help, but really, eventually you will have to get past it as it is too slow (though perfectly fine in the beginning). The only way to get over the problem you have is to practice constantly and sing every note. Teoria is good, but you need to be singing along with it.

You can't hear it until you can sing it without aid.

[bigtiny]

You can use popular songs to help identify intervals:

major 6ths - first two notes of the old NBC three note logo chime
first two notes of 'the days of wine and roses'

minor 6th - theme from 'love story'

p4 - 'here comes the bride'

etc
etc
etc

bigtiny

[Fuzzy Dustmite]

One I've always used for M6 is the first two notes of My Bonnie Lies Over the Ocean.

[Stumbo]

You might want to try a different program.

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[Chris K]

Originally Posted by Ed Fuqua

Do you sing any of these exercises?

+1 to singing intervals.

A nice milestone is to sing the chromatic scale slowly and clearly, full voice, up and down, falling back to the root between the steps:

C - c# - C - d - C - d# etc.
and
C - c' - C - b - C- bb etc.

After that: at random, like C - e - C - f# - C - bb

Step-ups to these exercise:
C - g - C - f - C
C - e - C - a - C
C - d -C -e - C -f -C -g - C - a - C - b - C - c'

Play the root note C on your bass, sing the interval, play it to check it.

[Vacume]

Thanks I have been singing along but I guess ill just have to keep at it. Useing a piece of music to remember intervals helps, but dos anywon know a good piece to remember hearing a minor 7th?

[Mark Wilson]

Sing everything.


And for min7, I just take the top note, and go up a tone. If it's a major 2nd from the root, it's a Minor 7th.

[Chris K]

Originally Posted by Vacume

Thanks I have been singing along but I guess ill just have to keep at it. Useing a piece of music to remember intervals helps, but dos anywon know a good piece to remember hearing a minor 7th?

Theeeeeeere's aaaaaaaaa plaaaaaace for uuuuuus, soooooooomewhere a plaaaaaaace for us.......

[Vacume]

Originally Posted by Chris K

Theeeeeeere's aaaaaaaaa plaaaaaace for uuuuuus, soooooooomewhere a plaaaaaaace for us.......

Im not shure I know this song any other suggestions?

[Chris K]

Originally Posted by Vacume

Im not shure I know this song any other suggestions?

It's from the musical West Side Story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BQMgCy-n6


Besides the initial minor 7th, there are many nice intervals to check out in this song.

[Vacume]

Originally Posted by Chris K

It's from the musical West Side Story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BQMgCy-n6


Besides the initial minor 7th, there are many nice intervals to check out in this song.

Could you tell me the name of the song? Ill look for it but the link isnt working

[Ed Fuqua]

Jesus. It's freaking called SOMEWHERE, which is in the freaking post Chris K gave you and if you freaking type SOMEWHERE A PLACE FOR US and WEST SIDE STORY into freaking Google, what do you think comes up? Let me know if you need someone to press on your chest so you can exhale.
Ahem.

Anyway, rather than trying to spend a lot of time finding songs that you can remember to see if they sound like what you think something sounds like, this set of exercises has been very useful.

[Chris K]

Originally Posted by Ed Fuqua

Jesus. It's freaking called SOMEWHERE, which is in the freaking post Chris K gave you and if you freaking type SOMEWHERE A PLACE FOR US and WEST SIDE STORY into freaking Google, what do you think comes up? Let me know if you need someone to press on your chest so you can exhale.
Ahem.

Anyway, rather than trying to spend a lot of time finding songs that you can remember to see if they sound like what you think something sounds like, this set of exercises has been very useful.

Glad you got that off YOUR chest, Ed.
Peace to you and keep up the good work.

[JimmyM]

west side story? what's up with that nonsense? that's a devo song that's part of their somewhere with devo medley:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cocU2...ext=1&index=34

[Chris K]

Originally Posted by JimmyM

west side story? what's up with that nonsense? that's a devo song that's part of their somewhere with devo medley:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cocU2...ext=1&index=34