Go Back   TalkBass Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > Bass Guitar Forums > General Instruction [BG]
Register Rules/FAQ/CUP Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

General Instruction [BG] General questions regarding bass playing, theory, and bass lessons.


Supporting Membership
Thank You

Latest Supporting Member
Donate to Upgrade Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 01-22-2012, 09:10 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
New bassist- what to do?

Sign in to disble this ad
Hello TB's!

My name is Chris and I am new to the bass (been playing ~ 5 months).

I would really like to improve my playing- and I realize this is a very open-ended question- but would you suggest I do/play in order to take things to the next level?

Some info that may be helpful: I know a little music theory but not a whole lot. I can play scales (and I guess my playing technique isn't too bad overall), I can play a few songs, I am taking lessons, and I listen to practically every kind of music. Reggae, Metal, Motown... it's all good and fine by me. I practice as much as I can (I probably average 2 hours of practice a day).

Any help would be appreciated. Thank you!
  #2  
Old 01-22-2012, 09:20 AM
MalcolmAmos's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Deep East Texas Piney Woods
Supporting Member
I live by this.

Bass Patterns based upon the Major Scale box.

Major Scale Box.

G|---2---|-------|---3---|---4---| 1st string
D|---6---|-------|---7---|---8---|
A|---3---|---4---|-------|---5---|
E|-------|---R---|-------|---2---|4th string

Basic Chords
Major Triad = R-3-5
Minor Triad = R-b3-5
Diminished Chord = R-b3-b5

7th Chords
Maj7 = R-3-5-7
Minor 7 = R-b3-5-b7
Dominant 7 = R-3-5-b7
½ diminished = R-b3-b5-b7
Full diminished = R-b3-b5-bb7

Scales
Major Scale = R-2-3-4-5-6-7
Major Pentatonic = R-2-3-5-6 leave out the 4 & 7
Natural Minor Scale = R-2-b3-4-5-b6-b7 Major scale with the 3, 6 & 7 flatted
Minor Pentatonic = R-b3-4-5-b7 Natural minor scale with out the 2 & 6.
Blues = R-b3-4-b5-5-b7 Minor pentatonic with the b5 blue note added.
Harmonic Minor Scale = R-2-b3-4-5-b6-7 Natural minor scale with a natural 7.
Melodic Minor Scale = R-2-b3-4-5-6-7 Major scale with a b3.

Major modes
Ionian same as the Major Scale. R-2-3-4-5-6-7
Lydian use the major scale and sharp the 4 - yes, it’s that simple.
Mixolydian use the major scale and flat the 7.

Minor Modes
Aeolian same as the Natural Minor scale. R-2-b3-4-5-b6-b7.
Dorian use the Natural Minor scale and sharp the b6 back to a natural 6.
Phrygian use the Natural Minor scale and flat the 2.
Locrian use the Natural Minor scale and flat the 2 and the 5.

Generic Notes.
The root, five and eight are generic and fit most any chord. (R-3-5-8) Remember the diminished has a flatted 5.
The 3 is generic to all major chords. R-3-5-3
The b3 is generic to all minor chords. R-b3-5-8
The 7 is generic to all maj7 chords. R-3-5-7
The b7 is generic to all dominant seventh and minor seventh chords. R-3-5-b7 or R-b3-5-b7
The 6 is neutral and adds color, help yourself to 6’s. R-3-5-6
The 2 and 4 make good passing notes. Don’t linger on them or stop on them, keep them passing.
In making your bass line help yourself to those notes, just use them correctly.
Roots, fives, eights and the correct 3 will play a lot of bass.

Time for Church, will add things when I get back. I'm back.

Play from fake chord sheet music. Most musicians pass among themselves fake chord sheet music so it makes since you know how to play from it.

See a C chord - question is what to play over/under that chord. Roots just by them selves is OK, A root-5 is better, R-5-8-5 is a little better and the whole chord tone of R-3-5-"x" is even better than that. What's "x"? If you have 4/4 time you need one more sound to fill out the measure. Kinda left up to you. R-3-5-3 or R-3-5-8 would be good choices.

One last thing to leave you with. Lyrics need one note per word, i.e. Happy Birthday both hap-py and birth-day will need two notes each now the word to and you only get one note per word. So ---- pay attention to the lyrics and let the lyrics help you with how many notes will be needed. Which note depends on what chord is harmonizing that part of the melody.

Go to www.studybass.com and ask specific questions here.

Good luck.

Last edited by MalcolmAmos : 01-22-2012 at 04:04 PM.
  #3  
Old 01-22-2012, 09:30 AM
DiabolusInMusic's Avatar
F Cleffin it ya F cleffers
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan
Supporting Member
The above post is useful, but start with your intervals. It'll make a LOT more sense then.

Learn your intervals, as in a semi-tone away from the root is a minor 2nd, a whole tone from the root is a maj 2nd, etc.

Once you've learned the intervals, learn how intervals construct a chord, as shown above. Like a Root- Major 3rd - Perfect Fifth = a major chord.

Sounds like your already off to a good start, you got a teacher.

Oh and I got an education... I won't be at church if you want to ask any questions....
__________________
Ibanez BTB 676 / Fender P
Markbass SD 800
Epifani UL2-310 / Markbass 410 HF-4

! ! Rocking against all gods ! !
  #4  
Old 01-22-2012, 09:32 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Mechanical finger exercises (Check out Bass Fitness book).
Scales are fine for this too.

Ear training (transcribing, ear training software/website).

Oh and try finding friends to play with. Super important.
__________________
Insert band here
  #5  
Old 01-22-2012, 07:47 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Arcadia, CA
Find someone to play with,. A school, church, formal band or jamming with mom on piano. Having others dependent upon you for support will do as much to force improvement as any method or technique.
__________________
What good is faith if you don't use it? Terminator Catherine Weaver, The Sarah Connor Chronicles.P&W 865
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Follow TalkBass on Twitter   Visit TalkBass on Facebook  

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:09 PM.




Copyright 2011 Talk Music Group Inc. All rights reserved.
Play guitar? Visit our new sister site TalkGuitar.com [beta]
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.12
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.