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Old 09-06-2011, 01:05 AM
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Hey Guys! I am new to the bass scene, having only very recently decided to take up playing, or trying to!
So, I am sure there are several threads out there similar to what I am about to ask, but, who can be bothered finding them all
As I said, I am a complete novice, both musically and bass-ally!?. I recently bought my first bass as my current lifestyle affords me a lot of time to practice. I work in Afghanistan, and am away most of the year, in this **** hole! When I get home next, October, I will find a good teacher and take a few lessons to get me started. Then, when I return to the 'Ghan its up to me to carry on on my own. I am just after some advice on what to practice as a beginner and general hints and tips to keep me on the right track, and bad habits to avoid as I will be stuck out here on my own with no one to turn to in times of need!
Well, thanks in advance guys. I am proper looking forward to beginning my bass adventure!
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Old 09-06-2011, 01:09 AM
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learn songs form your favourite bands.
find some basic bass scale excersizes.
make sure you're using the pinky of the fretting hand, i was bad for this and only used three fingers and im now only getting my pinky used to running scales.
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Old 09-06-2011, 02:04 AM
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Well you have plenty of time to practice! Definatley find songs you enjoy and learn the bass. Warning not all tabs are correct on the internet though. Look up scales for bass to. I have been playing guitar since I was 13 and now im 16 and playing bass. Building up your fingers is very important! Once they are callassed(however you spell that) it will be a breeze, and yes use your pinky to. Try different styles of playing to. I prefer the pick because what I play is a bit fast. But you can finger pick, slap, use a pick. So experiment to what feels comfortable. And have fun! Make some cool songs. Who knows maybe when you get back youll find a band and can say you wrote your songs in Afghanistan. Good luck man!
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Old 09-06-2011, 04:48 AM
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Online Bass Lessons at StudyBass.com and the book Bass Guitar for Dummies, for the how to stuff. How to hold your bass, how to tune it, how to mute the strings, how to decide if you will use fingers, thumb or a pick, things like that.

Scales to get your fingers moving on the fretboard, however, about 85 to 95% of what we do is not from scales it's from chord notes. Follow the chords in the song and play the notes of the chord, aka chord tones.

I suggest you let Google find fake chord sheet music on your favorite songs -- Google guitar chords, "name of the song" the comma and quote marks help in the search.

So -- you gotta know your scales and put some generic chord tones into muscle memory, i.e. see the Cmaj7 chord coming up and know that the R-3-5-7 notes of the C scale are going to be a safe bass line. See the Am7 chord coming up and know that R-b3-5-b7 will work for that chord.

Right at first use only the Root, R-R-R-R and when that is easy add the 5 - R-5-R-5. When you can do that add the other chord tones. Add as many as you think are needed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obFcsEtFIKA

I think this should get you going.

Bass Patterns based upon the Major Scale box.

Code:
Major Scale Box. 

G|---2---|-------|---3---|---4---| 1st string
D|---6---|-------|---7---|---8---|
A|---3---|---4---|-------|---5---|
E|-------|---R---|-------|---2---|4th string


Place the root (R) on the C note 4th string 8th fret and the C major scale await you.
Place the root (R) on the C note and play the R-3-5 and you have just played the notes of the C major chord aka C arpeggio. Chord progression for this song is G-C-D. Place your box root on a G on the 3rd string. Where is your C? Where is the D? The next song's progression is C-F-G. Place your box root on a C on the 3rd string. Where is your F? Where is your G? Yep, piece of cake.

Basic Chords
Major Triad = R-3-5
Minor Triad = R-b3-5
Diminished Chord = R-b3-b5

7th Chords
Maj7 = R-3-5-7
Minor 7 = R-b3-5-b7
Dominant 7 = R-3-5-b7
½ diminished = R-b3-b5-b7
Full diminished = R-b3-b5-bb7

Scales
Major Scale = R-2-3-4-5-6-7
Major Pentatonic = R-2-3-5-6
Natural Minor Scale = R-2-b3-4-5-b6-b7
Minor Pentatonic = R-b3-4-5-b7
Blues = R-b3-4-b5-5-b7
Harmonic Minor Scale = R-2-b3-4-5-b6-7
Melodic Minor Scale = R-2-b3-4-5-6-7

Major modes
Ionian same as the Major Scale.
Lydian use the major scale and sharp the 4 - yes, it’s that simple.
Mixolydian use the major scale and flat the 7.

Minor Modes
Aeolian same as the Natural Minor scale.
Dorian use the Natural Minor scale and sharp the b6 back to a natural 6.
Phrygian use the Natural Minor scale and flat the 2.
Locrian use the Natural Minor scale and flat the 2 and the 5.

Generic Notes.
The root, five and eight are generic and fit most any chord. Remember the diminished has a flatted 5.
The 3 is generic to all major chords. See a major chord R-3-5-8 is a generic bass line that will work.
The b3 is generic to all minor chords. See a minor chord R-b3-5-8 is a generic bass line that will work.
The 7 is generic to all maj7 chords. R-3-5-7.
The b7 is generic to all dominant seventh and minor seventh chords. R-3-5-b7 or R-b3-5-b7.
The 6 is neutral and adds color, help yourself to 6’s. I like R-3-5-6 for major chords. Has a great sound.
The 2 and 4 make good passing notes. Don’t linger on them or stop on them, keep them passing.
In making your bass line help yourself to those notes, just use them correctly.
Remember roots, fives, eights and the correct 3 will play a lot of bass.

Get your scales going and put some generic chord tone patterns into muscle memory then go play the bass line to some songs. Google bass backing tracks and have fun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUK5pE5x_6A look what is on the right hand side of the screen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwMYW...eature=related Just roots at first then see what else needs adding.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4x0u...eature=related Again just roots for now, then see if you can get R-5 in before the music goes off and leaves you.
Have fun.

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Old 09-06-2011, 05:08 AM
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Wesz,

Will you have computer access when you're in Afghanistan? And if so, will you have access to a webcam and Skype (or another video capable IM program)? If so, you may be able to arrange webcam lessons with the instructor you find back home. I'm pretty new to bass, and my weekly lessons invariably include my teacher pointing out something improper/wrong/less-than-ideal about my technique that I was oblivious to. Having that feedback, even if it's accomplished via grainy webcam chat, could be valuable to your progress.
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Old 09-09-2011, 02:25 AM
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Thanks for the help guys, really appreciate it. No doubt I will be back soon pestering for more!

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Old 09-09-2011, 04:17 AM
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One thought...learn how to do a very basic setup (truss rod adjustment, string change). With a dramatic change in climate, your bass can easily become almost unplayable, and I doubt there are many luthiers readily available to help.
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