noob scalequestion

[johannes87]

hey, i am learning my first scales:



i was wondering how i should practise them to get the most out of them improvisitional-wise, singing them as i play? how much time should i spend everyday? how do YOU practise scales?

thankfully

/johannes

[DocBop]

Singing will help get the sound but you want to have something playing the related chord. So if playing Dorian you want a Mi7 chord playing. Then do your analysis and look for the notes that differ from major or minor. So back to Dorian compare to a natural minor scale and see the major 6 in a minor scale is the difference. Now back to playing the mode and listen to the sound of that major 6 against a minor chord. Do this with all the modes, by the time you do that you do all that you should have the fingering down, know the related chord, know the note(s) that give the mode its sound, and have experiments making music or soloing with it.


Now here is a routine a teacher I had used.

1. Play the scale/mode over two octaves (or more.)
2. Play the related arpeggio up to the 13th over two octaves.
3. Play a pattern using that scale (3rd, 4ths, sequence). Yup over two octaves.
4. Now sit and improvise using the scale/mode.

Do this on one scale/mode over a chord in a key. Do this for about 10-15 minutes a day for a week. Then move to another scale/mode chord or key the next week. Do this short routine and you will master your scales/modes, develop your ear, build fretboard knowledge, and how to use musically. If into Jazz this process will take a couple years to finish because their are around 100 chords and related scales/modes to work on (basic chords X 12 keys).

Okay timer set for 15 minutes, now get to work.

[El Bajo]

Just one question. Where can I get the chords to play over?

Ive got an acoustic so do you think I should record a simple chrod progression and just jam over it?

[johannes87]

thanks alot for the great reply man, unfortunately i'm such a noob at theory, so i was wondering if you could explain in a bit more simple i don't really know what a 'related chord' is.

thanks man i really appreicate it

Originally Posted by DocBop

Singing will help get the sound but you want to have something playing the related chord. So if playing Dorian you want a Mi7 chord playing. Then do your analysis and look for the notes that differ from major or minor. So back to Dorian compare to a natural minor scale and see the major 6 in a minor scale is the difference. Now back to playing the mode and listen to the sound of that major 6 against a minor chord. Do this with all the modes, by the time you do that you do all that you should have the fingering down, know the related chord, know the note(s) that give the mode its sound, and have experiments making music or soloing with it.


Now here is a routine a teacher I had used.

1. Play the scale/mode over two octaves (or more.)
2. Play the related arpeggio up to the 13th over two octaves.
3. Play a pattern using that scale (3rd, 4ths, sequence). Yup over two octaves.
4. Now sit and improvise using the scale/mode.

Do this on one scale/mode over a chord in a key. Do this for about 10-15 minutes a day for a week. Then move to another scale/mode chord or key the next week. Do this short routine and you will master your scales/modes, develop your ear, build fretboard knowledge, and how to use musically. If into Jazz this process will take a couple years to finish because their are around 100 chords and related scales/modes to work on (basic chords X 12 keys).

Okay timer set for 15 minutes, now get to work.

[owensea777]

Does anyone know where I can get a similar pic (the one in the original post) that I can copy and paste?

[alangoldstein]

i would play them ascending and descending but with 2 right finger notes PER note.

then , 3, 4, slow AND fast to a CLICK or drum beat.

and vary ( fluctuate ) the dynamics, feel, tempos,...

and also check out my new 3 hour bass dvd!

peace! alan