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Old 09-21-2011, 11:21 AM
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Hi guys im new to Talk bass, Ive been playing bass for a while and never bothered to learn the notes.

I have them On a sheet but i cant seem to remember them all off by heart.
Are there any ryhmes to help me remember?

Like for the strings there is Go Dancing At Easter
GADE. But is there any for all the notes? or some off them?


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I made the attached chart awhile ago and it's helped me a lot. Basically, it just shows C Major with sharps and flats listed as "# / b". There's also a block with C in the center, so that if you find a C, you can know where other notes are around it.
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Old 09-21-2011, 11:31 AM
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What I had done, inadvertently, was learn the G, A and C positions on the E string first. I than learned how to comprehend intervals and applied it to the neck. Learn how intervals work in major, and the 3 minors, and than learn exactly where those three notes are on the E string, and you will make great progress. A lot of it will just fall into place.
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Old 09-21-2011, 11:40 AM
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Hi guys im new to Talk bass, Ive been playing bass for a while and never bothered to learn the notes. I have them On a sheet but i cant seem to remember them all off by heart.
Are there any ryhmes to help me remember? Like for the strings there is Go Dancing At Easter GADE. But is there any for all the notes? or some off them? Thanks,
If you will let the major scale box be your guide that can be your home base. If you want the natural minor scale use the major scale box pattern and flat the 3, 6 & 7. If you want the major pentatonic scale use the major scale box and leave out the 4 and 7. No you do not have to put all of the following into memory - today. Start with the major scale box and see where it takes you.

Place the box correctly and the notes of the scale/chord you want are there automatically waiting on you. Instead of worrying where all the notes of the scale are located all over your fretboard learn where they are on the 3rd and 4th string from the nut to the 12th fret. If you know that then place the pattern and trust your box to have the right notes waiting for you.

Another way of looking at it. A short cut that will get you playing now. Sooner or later you will need to know where all the notes are - your choice - stick with notes if you like and especially if you will be playing from standard notation, however, if you will be using fake chord sheet music you may find the box to be a friend. .

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Major Scale Box. 

G|---2---|-------|---3---|---4---| 1st string
D|---6---|-------|---7---|---8---|
A|---3---|---4---|-------|---5---|
E|-------|---R---|-------|---2---|4th string


Place the root (R) on the C note 4th string 8th fret and the C major scale await you.
Place the root (R) on the C note and play the R-3-5 and you have just played the notes of the C major chord aka C arpeggio. Chord progression for this song is G-C-D. Place your box root on a G on the 3rd string. Where is your C? Where is the D? The next song's progression is C-F-G. Place your box root on a C on the 3rd string. Where is your F? Where is your G? Yep, piece of cake.

Basic Chord intervals to use in your bass lines.

Major Triad = R-3-5
Minor Triad = R-b3-5
Diminished Chord = R-b3-b5

7th Chords
Maj7 = R-3-5-7
Minor 7 = R-b3-5-b7
Dominant 7 = R-3-5-b7
½ diminished = R-b3-b5-b7
Full diminished = R-b3-b5-bb7

Scales - The scale notes to use in your solos and to get your fingers doing what they need to do and your ear recognizing the good sounds from the bad sounds.
Major Scale = R-2-3-4-5-6-7
Major Pentatonic = R-2-3-5-6 Major scale without the 4 & 7
Major Bebop = R-2-3-4-5-b6-6-7 Major scale with a b6 added
Major Dominant Bebop = R-2-3-4-5-6-b7-7 Major scale with both b7 and 7
Natural Minor Scale = R-2-b3-4-5-b6-b7 Major scale with the 3, 6 & 7 flatted
Minor Pentatonic = R-b3-4-5-b7 Natural minor scale without the 2 & 6
Blues = R-b3-4-b5-5-b7 Minor pentatonic with the b5 blue note added
Harmonic Minor Scale = R-2-b3-4-5-b6-7 Natural minor scale with a natural 7
Melodic Minor Scale = R-2-b3-4-5-6-7 Major scale with a b3
Minor Bebop = R-2-b3-3-4-5-6-b7 Dorian with a natural 3 added
That’s enough to get you going.



Major modes Something to use when you start soloing.
Ionian same as the Major Scale.
Lydian use the major scale and sharp the 4 - yes, it’s that simple.
Mixolydian use the major scale and flat the 7.

Minor Modes Again used for your solos, chord tones for your accompaniment work.
Aeolian same as the Natural Minor scale.
Dorian use the Natural Minor scale and sharp the b6 back to a natural 6.
Phrygian use the Natural Minor scale and flat the 2.
Locrian use the Natural Minor scale and flat the 2 and the 5.

Generic Notes to use in your bass lines. The following is a good guide of what to put into your bass lines.
The root, five and eight are generic and fit most any chord. Remember the diminished has a flatted 5.
The 3 is generic to all major chords. See a major chord R-3-5-8 is a generic bass line that will work.
The b3 is generic to all minor chords. See a minor chord R-b3-5-8 is a generic bass line that will work.
The 7 is generic to all maj7 chords. R-3-5-7.
The b7 is generic to all dominant seventh and minor seventh chords. R-3-5-b7 or R-b3-5-b7.
The 6 is neutral and adds color, help yourself to 6’s. I like R-3-5-6 for major chords. Has a great sound.
The 2 and 4 make good passing notes. Don’t linger on them or stop on them, keep them passing.
In making your bass line help yourself to those notes, just use them correctly.
Remember roots, fives, eights and the correct 3 will play a lot of bass.

Now this will take you down the interval road, C E G becomes R-3-5, which is not going to help you play from standard notation, however, if you play from fake chord sheet music you can play a bunch of bass using R-3-5, i.e. the chord tone interval numbers. See a C chord coming up in the music and know that R-3-5-8 will be a safe bass line under the C chord. If the next chord coming up is an Am7 well you can bet the farm that R-b3-5-b7 will work - if you have time (space) for it. If not just the Root will always work. Another story best taken up on another post.

Print this off and use it as a reference guide, put it into your reference material. You know that three ring binder you've started for stuff like this.

Good luck.

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Old 09-21-2011, 04:24 PM
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The note below the staff is an E. That's pretty easy to remember.
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Old 09-21-2011, 06:05 PM
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Holy Crap you guys make this look like calculaus!

It's easy, starting from the bottom line on the staff it's ascending from G. So from the bottom just count up from G,A,B,C,D,E,F,G,A


C
B
A------------
G
F------------
E
D------------
C
B------------
A
G -----------
F
E


It's like a ladder! The 2 notes below G are E and F, The Notes above A are B and C

But the most important part is to remember the ladder starts on G, and ascends to A.

I hope I didn't make that complicated in trying to make it simple

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Old 09-21-2011, 06:25 PM
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Lines - Every Good Boy Does Fine Always & then middle C.
Spaces - on the - Farm All Cows Eat Grass & Belch.

That will help identify the notes, however, you still need to know where they are on your fretboard.

OK not a step for a stepper..... Need the ledger note E (the low one) ......
E string has the E, F & G notes @ position 1 (first 4 frets)
A string has the A, B & C notes @ position 1.
D string has the D, E & F notes @ position 1. Notice you are in a higher octave.
G string has the G, A, B & C notes @ position 1 - and just keep going on up the 1st string for the next (3rd) octave.

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