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Old 03-14-2009, 10:36 AM
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What's up? I got a bass for Christmas, and I've been having a blast with it, but I'd like to actually start getting somewhere with my practice. I've played tuba for 4 and and a half year,so I can read bass clef and understand a little bit of theory. Mostly what I've done on bass is mess around with tabs and a little bit of learning the major scales. Any help on what I should do next would be awesome. Peace.
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Old 03-14-2009, 01:09 PM
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Hey,

I'm sure you'll got lots of great, general advice. But to really help you with some suggestions, it would be handy to know some stuff about YOU:

Namely:
1) What are your bass playing goals (ie what are you trying to achieve, do you wanna be in a band, do you wanna play in a particular style - what are you trying to achieve SPECIFICALLY?)
2) How much time do you currently practice?
3) What's your current level?

Answer those questions - especially your goals - and any advice/feedback offered can be tailored to what you are trying to achieve.




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Old 03-14-2009, 01:23 PM
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The piece of advice I got when I started out, and found to be the most useful was simply to listen to a lot of different styles of music, and work at picking out the basslines.

The rest will come naturally when you noodle away at your bass.
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Old 03-14-2009, 03:04 PM
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I also had a brass background as a tenor horn player, i never realised it till after playing for about 20 years that because i am right handed and my years of playing valves my right hand technique was in place before i even started to play bass. For me three fingers was natural and i did not even think about it, and its been a great skill to have.
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Old 03-14-2009, 04:26 PM
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1- I want to be able to play in jazz and rock styles, and play in a band if the opportunity arises
2-Varies, as little as as 15 minutes, or as much as an hour and a half
3-I can play Another one Bites the Dust by queen, and a few Police songs.
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Old 03-14-2009, 08:54 PM
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I've only been playing for 2 years, but here's my advice. Pick up this book from Ed Friedland, Hal Leonard Bass Method - Complete Edition: http://www.amazon.com/Leonard-Bass-M...7085395&sr=8-2. Get a teacher if you can. And know that there are a lot of decent bass covers on the internet that you can learn from. Just go to Google video (http://video.google.com/?hl=en) and google a band or song name and add the words 'bass cover'
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Old 03-14-2009, 11:22 PM
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Someone on this thread asked a very pertinent question:"What are your goals,concerning becoming a bassist?My questions are:"Are you looking to become a working bassist"?What kind of music are playing?What kind of music would you LIKE to play?Do you study,and if so,with who and where?Are you surrounding yourself with people who are already doing what you want to do?Who do you listen to?Experience is(and always was),the best teacher,and one of the first things you should do is to,seek out other musicians to Jam with,...preferrably,people that you know,at first,...just to learn how to play with other people.Listen to recordings of some of your favorite bassists,and try to emulate what they do.Getting yourself a good teacher,is also,not a bad idea,...they can turn you onto some things that,you may not be hip to.Get yourself over to some venues(clubs)where good bands are playing,and if they have a good bassist,walk up,and introduce yourself as a budding bassist,and pick their brain.The whole idea is to gain experience.These are just a few things that,you can do to get started.I don't know where you live,but assuming that you in the NYC,or somewhere in the tri-state area,I'm also a Bass teacher.You can reach me either,on this site,or at:tehrinsbass@yahoo,com . Good luck,and great success in your quest! Peace!

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Old 03-15-2009, 02:40 AM
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1- I want to be able to play in jazz and rock styles, and play in a band if the opportunity arises
2-Varies, as little as as 15 minutes, or as much as an hour and a half
3-I can play Another one Bites the Dust by queen, and a few Police songs.
Hey

Thanks for posting your goals, here's some advice based on that. Please bear in mind that this is MY advice only. Others will give you different advice - you need to find a path that will take you to your goals AND suits your personality.

To achieve what you've listed as your goals, the method that I would advise is this:

1) Do basic work on your technique (both left and right hand) to meet the technical demands of the genres you want to play in - this need not take more than 10-15 minutes a day, and in 6 months to a year you'll have a basic technique set in stone to build on (PROVIDED you do it right of course)

2) Apply left and right technique to a series of progressively more difficult songs. The songs you've listed that you can play are a great place to start - head over to my website, click on the '50 songs' tab and you'll find a list of 50 songs that go from this level to far more complex. If you worked through that list at the rate of a song a week, or a song every other week, by the time you get to the end of the list your playing abilities will have come on in leaps and bounds.

3) To start with, concentrate on working through a list of progressively difficult songs (whether my list, or a list you come up with yourself based on what YOU like to hear). After you've been doing that for 6 months or so you need to start thinking about the 'theoretical' aspects of what you're doing - what chords are being played, what scales are used to provide note choices when playing over that chord, rhythm, time, etc).

This is to ensure that when you get to the end of the 50 songs as well as having taken your playing up several notches you also UNDERSTAND how to play your own lines so that if you're in a jam scenario and someone says: Let's play THIS song (and you've never heard it), provided someone tells you the chords you should be able to come up with a genre appropriate line - lots of guys learn to play loads of songs but never learn how to play songs they haven't got the tab for. (SIDENOTE - learning to play walking basslines is a great way to learn how to do this - Ed's Friedland's BUILDING JAZZ BASSLINES is the best book I've personally seen for this - there are others out there but I've not seen them all).

4) Get a good teacher! (Very untrendy advice in some circles).

Here's my definition of a good teacher: Someone who'll listen to what you want to do, and come up with a teaching plan to get you where you want to go, in the way you want to get there .

My definition of a bad teacher: Someone who teaches as a gig, is only really interested in the money the gig pays, who teaches (without thinking why) scales and arpeggios...if you do go to my website you'll see some of my stories about this!

A good teacher will save you time in the long run by:
(i) pointing out technique problems that will hold you back when you get faster
(ii) sharing their knowledge/experience so that you don't have to reinvent the wheel
(iii) Give you encouragement and support on those days when you want to give up/feel crappy etc etc.

Hope that helps - if you want more info don't hesitate to PM me, send me an email, or post here!


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