|  | 
11-11-2010, 09:54 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Denver, CO | | | The opposite of a dead note?
Sign in to disble this ad
I've gotten used to the "dead note" on my Fender Jazz. It's on the G string at the D. It's pretty obvious when practicing the ground bass in Pachelbel's Canon in D so I shifted to the 12th fret on the D string.
With that, no problems on the D. Instead, when I play the G (on the E string), it's much louder than the other notes. I'm trying to pluck evenly, but there is still a noticeable difference in volume.
Here's what I'm doing: D (12th fret, D string), rake up to A, shift to B, rake up to F#, shift to G, shift to D, shift to G, down to A.
I am going through this pretty slowly, maybe 30bps, and the volume shift is going from F# to G. I don't hear it going from G to D or back.
I'm holding the F# with my 2nd finger, the G with my 3rd.
I think that I'm either way off on my plucking or I'm doing something wrong with the fretting of the F# and damping it so that the G just comes out louder.
What should I be looking at? My finger position relative to the fret? | 
11-12-2010, 05:06 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ontario, Canada | | | Some notes resonate better than others. This can be because of the guitar, or maybe the cab/speaker setup as well. You're just hitting that magical frequency where it all comes together. I'm not sure what can be done about that... for me, coincidentally, the magic note is ALSO G on the E string, both low and high positions. | 
11-12-2010, 05:39 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bremen, Germany | | | This can also be a problem with your room. Every room has a natural resonant frequency; in your case maybe it is that F#. In my case every time I play a B, no matter which octave it sounds louder than any other note.
__________________
Yorkville/Traynor Club Member #197
| 
11-12-2010, 05:58 AM
|  | bassist for staind | | | | | plug it into a mixing board or tape deck, watch the meter to see how much output. it will tell you if its the bass, or the eqpt after or the room. | 
11-12-2010, 06:04 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Alexandria Virginia | | | Unintended resonances and holes happen in engineering all the time in essentially everything that requires complex engineering - acoustic, electrical, mechanical. Usually, we find them through robust CAD tools and testing but 'stuff happens' and bad manufacturing can outwit the best engineering intentions. Sometimes the designers get it wrong as well.
__________________
Clubs: BTB 118, Ibanez 689, 5-string 436, P&W 820, Lefties who play Rightie 157
BTB675, EDB605, GSR200,
Peavey BAM 210, 115BX BW, TVX 410, Mark VIII XP
| 
11-12-2010, 06:04 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Pennsylvania | | | Same G on the E string for me. I was going to try to dial in the precise Hz of the note on my Thunderfunk and try to knock a couple dB off that frequency. I'm not sure if the TF is parametric, however. | 
11-12-2010, 04:31 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada. | | | Every bass I've played have had a fuller/richer low G than other notes. I've always attributed that to the sympathetic D and G strings, although it shouldn't occur if those strings are well muted. | 
11-12-2010, 04:35 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Minnesota - Twin Cities | | | opposite?
Quality Graphite basses.. often not my cup o tea.. but still very active all over.
__________________
-------------
------------- (o)\ ! /(o)
-------------
Minnesota Classic VW Collector & Peavey USA Custom Shop Freak
Peavey USA Club Member # 122 (X40) Bassists who drive a VW club #? (x20+)
| 
11-13-2010, 11:29 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: South Florida | | | Gotta love fender jazz basses.
__________________
Reggae music is the healing of the nation.
Set-up: Aguilar GS112NT, Genz 6.0 + Lakland 55-01 = riddim machine
| 
11-13-2010, 11:33 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Netherlands | | Uhm. An undead note?
Oohh! A ghost note! 
__________________ Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsal Dude, when you can go loud, who needs tone? :D | Quote:
Originally Posted by Smurf-o-Deth Dirt is my friend. It wants to be your friend, too. | | 
11-13-2010, 11:10 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Denver, CO | | Quote:
Originally Posted by staindbass plug it into a mixing board or tape deck, watch the meter to see how much output. it will tell you if its the bass, or the eqpt after or the room. | I don't have a meter on my board, just the set of runway lights so I ran it into GarageBand. I'm seeing a lot of variation on the amplitude, so I need to work at evening out things. But G consistently gets clipped while the other notes rarely do. Kind of weird, so I'll come back to this after some practice on the plucking.
Thanks all for the observations. | 
11-15-2010, 10:08 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Woking, Surrey, UK. | | | I've recall hearing (sorry!) many years ago that the opposite of a "Dead Note" - a note that sounds louder than the rest of the instrument - is called a "Wolf Tone". As I knew well back in the day (ex Tuba Player) you get these (Dead Notes and Wolf Tones) on Brass instruments as well.
__________________
Peter.
You hum it, I'll play it!!.
| | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | |
Posting Rules
| You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | |