Playing over the one

[drazynx]

Hello,

Basically, I wanna know how to player over the one (till the 2nd 3rd or forth beat of the next measure.) I can't think of anyone in particular that does it at the moment, but I think it's common enough. I was wondering if there was a hard in fast rule for playing over the 1. I hear gospel players do it a lot, continuing a bass line till the 2nd or 3rd beat, and coming back in on the new root or key. If there isn't how do you go about constructing this kind of technique? appoggiatura? common chord tones? changing tones? just keep groovin' till you wanna go to the next phrase? Thanks.

[cowsgomoo]

one way Scott Thunes used to do it was to play a descending arpeggiated figure that continued the phrase downwards to land on the second beat of a bar... the notes played over the 1st beat therefore still make harmonic sense but the momentum is towards the second beat..

i.e. see the carry-over from bar 17 to bar 18 on this:




there's a similar phrase here between bars 14 and 15:

[drazynx]

Cool thanks for the reply. I'm gonna use the second example because it looks like it changes root and the first one i think stays on B. I could be reading it wrong, and if so my bad. Is that arppegio i guess the "standard"? Also, do you have to start with the root regardless on the 1? cause he goes from G to G looks like, and once again if I read it wrong I apologize. I like the chromatic setup to the next note in both examples, seems like that would work well. I was looking more towards something really to the right of the bar, like http://youtube.com/watch?v=pUg-2Y1zKwI about 14-15 seconds into it you'll hear the bass player do this scale down and, to me atleast, it sounds like he's just going down until he gets to the right note, still playing the write notes, just not the root. regardless, thanks a bunch man.

edited for clarity.

[JimK]

Bare bones beginning-
You can take something you already know...like, say, your favourite 1-bar lick/riff/figure, etc & displace it.
So, if your 1-bar lick starts on "1"...try starting it on the "& of 2".
Example:
l1-&-2e-a-e-a4-&al

...becomes-
l------&-3-&a-e-al-e&-2e----------l