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Old 05-15-2009, 02:45 PM
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ok, so if you're writing a song, how can you tell what key youre in???????? I know, I am pretty retarded. I what to do an improv in my song, but how do i tell what scale to use?
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Old 05-15-2009, 03:45 PM
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Well the key determines your note pool basically...

You use the circle of fifths to determine that, so if you have an F sharp in your song and no other sharps you are most likely in the key of Gmajor or one of its modes (E minor, A Dorain, B phrygian, ext.....)



It's a little more complex than just that though...Usually the root note (in the key of C this would be C...in A minor this would be A, even though its the same note pool as the key of C..since this shift in tonal center is what makes a minor key and its relative major key different) is the strongest note in the song, the tonal center, and will begin and end the song. Of course there are also other considerations, key changes, modal music, blues....

Then it gets a little more complicated when say your jamming over a progression like Cmin | G7 | Cminor | G7 | because even though there is no A sharp chord your most likely playing in the key of A sharp and playing a ii | V | progression.

So to really answer your question you would have to post your song. I would also recommend you take a music theory course or a few lessons so that you can fully understand this stuff...its really not all that complex, and there are good reasons why everything works the way it does.

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Old 05-19-2009, 12:16 PM
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Lookout for those songs that change key's throughout the song! :X

for example.. "give it away - chili peppers" changes from A to E a couple times during the song.
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Old 05-19-2009, 10:43 PM
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The "cheatin' bastard" shortcut: Like 90%+ of all popular songs start the chord progression of the verse on the I chord of the key it is in. That is the "root" chord of the key. So if the first chord of the verse is Eb, then you're most likely in the key of Eb.

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I would like to take the time to +1 Dudiest Monk on memorizing the Circle of Pain...uh...5ths...and then looking at the whole progression the song uses. This tool is infinitely useful, even if you can't sightread.
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Old 05-21-2009, 06:39 AM
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Harmony 101 - the Chord you finish on is the key you're in!!. This maybe an over-simplification but you'll find it's right 99% of the time :-).
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