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Old 01-13-2005, 02:15 PM
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Please, Pentatonic Scale with all modes spelled out.

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Can someone please give me a charted example of the minor pentatonic scale with modes 1-7? Like you would find in a scale book? I've been searching the net for hours, here too, and just can't find it. Please help, THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU.
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Penta means five, so per definition there can't be 7 "modes", only 5.
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Well that helped a lot. Thanks.
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Can someone please give me a charted example of the minor pentatonic scale with modes 1-7? Like you would find in a scale book? I've been searching the net for hours, here too, and just can't find it. Please help, THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU.
I think the reason you can't find it is that it's not a concept much of anybody uses. At least in my experience.

Here's an example of a minor pentatonic scale:

D F G A C D

In terms of steps:

1.5 1 1 1.5 1
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What I've heard in my experience-

C - Eb - F - G - Bb - minor pentatonic
Eb - F - G - Bb - C - major pentatonic
F - G - Bb - C - Eb - suspended pentatonic
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What I've heard in my experience-

C - Eb - F - G - Bb - minor pentatonic
Eb - F - G - Bb - C - major pentatonic
F - G - Bb - C - Eb - suspended pentatonic
Yes indeed, but IMO those are best thought of as just different pentatonic scales. Thinking of them as modes of the minor pentatonic is IMO not a concept that will help anybody much. This is my problem with the whole "modes of the X scale" thing, but that's another thread (or three) ....

Just my $0.02.

My bias is that to understand modes or scales, they should be learned from the same starting point. Thus, in your terms:

Minor pentatonic: D F G A C
Major pentatonic: D E F# A B
Sus pentatonic: D E G A C
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Take it from your major scale as a reference if you know your major scale then just drop out the 4th and 7th notes of the scale thus you come up with

Formulae: 1-2-3-5-6

Just another way to look at it but the advice given is sufficient enough
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My bias is that to understand modes or scales, they should be learned from the same starting point. Thus, in your terms:

Minor pentatonic: D F G A C
Major pentatonic: D E F# A B
Sus pentatonic: D E G A C
I definitely think that is more helpful way to learn them, too. I was just showing how they were modes. I was going to put them into names of scale degrees, but if figured that was a given, so I'll post them here.

R - b3 - 4 - 5 - b7
R - 2 - 3 - 5 - 6
R - 2 - 4 - 5 - b7
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Well, this helps, guess I'll just remember patterns and play them in place. I asked for modes because I was under the impression that all scales were broken into x amount of modes and kind of played in that sort of relationship. I know the major scale back and forth and all the modes in relation so I thought that's the way it was going to come out, guess I've got plenty to learn. Thanks a ton though guys.
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