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07-15-2008, 10:03 PM
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i had a bass lesson today, and we were working on jazz soloing (on "there will never be another you") and something good happened. i forced myself to stay above the 12th fret, which i was previously very uncomfortable doing, and my solo was jamming! i mean, not fantastic...but compared to what i could do before, it was great. now, i haven't spent a lot of time beyond 12th, so i don't always know what notes i'm playing, but everything is within easy reach and arpeggiated patterns are easy enough, so i just use my ear and it works out.
BUT i cant solo for beans down the neck. its like...i know without thinking what all the notes are, but i just hit a block. and the middle of the neck is when it gets REALLY bad. i get completely lost. can anyone relate to this? can anyone solo great around one part of the neck but not at all around the other?
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07-15-2008, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by uethanian i had a bass lesson today, and we were working on jazz soloing (on "there will never be another you") and something good happened. i forced myself to stay above the 12th fret, which i was previously very uncomfortable doing, and my solo was jamming! i mean, not fantastic...but compared to what i could do before, it was great. now, i haven't spent a lot of time beyond 12th, so i don't always know what notes i'm playing, but everything is within easy reach and arpeggiated patterns are easy enough, so i just use my ear and it works out.
BUT i cant solo for beans down the neck. its like...i know without thinking what all the notes are, but i just hit a block. and the middle of the neck is when it gets REALLY bad. i get completely lost. can anyone relate to this? can anyone solo great around one part of the neck but not at all around the other? |
Make up some exercises where you go all over the neck. |
07-15-2008, 10:12 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: MD | | | It just mean's you don't know you're neck down cold. When you're above the 12th fret, the patterns of notes repeat from the bottom, and when you're playing basslines you're towards the bottom of the neck, so presumably you know your way around down there. Fortunately, the solution is simple, practice in the middle register a lot and get really comfortable with note names and placements. It'll come to you, don't worry.
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07-15-2008, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by HaVIC5 It just mean's you don't know you're neck down cold. When you're above the 12th fret, the patterns of notes repeat from the bottom, and when you're playing basslines you're towards the bottom of the neck, so presumably you know your way around down there. Fortunately, the solution is simple, practice in the middle register a lot and get really comfortable with note names and placements. It'll come to you, don't worry. | Pretty much that's it. They are the same notes, just a little closer on that part of the fretboard.
Letting yourself go, "Use the Force Luke" is the real trick after you have the technique down. Its all about fun!! 
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07-16-2008, 12:54 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Central Illinois | | | First, learn the names of the notes...everywhere on the fretboard.
Then, when you discover a lick, pattern, solo, etc. that you like and are comfortable with in one position, force yourself to learn it in other octaves or in other keys in various positions on the neck.
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07-16-2008, 01:04 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: NYC(winter)/SF(summer) | | | i can't really solo for beans in the lower parts of the neck either; i always figured it was because i wasn't hearing the notes down there. i remember reading in the Miles Davis autobiography that for a long time he never played high notes because he never heard them in his solos. maybe this is heretical, but even as a bass player, i hear solos higher up than my basslines.
the other day i bought a digitech whammy pedal, and tried turning it on during my solos. it worked amazingly! and i could hear everything coming out in the octave it was playing in my head. i've only heard of a couple people doing this (reid mathis, for one), but i can play all the stuff down low on the neck where i know the notes, and it comes out really high. pretty cool. |
07-16-2008, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by bainpent i can't really solo for beans in the lower parts of the neck either; i always figured it was because i wasn't hearing the notes down there. i remember reading in the Miles Davis autobiography that for a long time he never played high notes because he never heard them in his solos. maybe this is heretical, but even as a bass player, i hear solos higher up than my basslines.
the other day i bought a digitech whammy pedal, and tried turning it on during my solos. it worked amazingly! and i could hear everything coming out in the octave it was playing in my head. i've only heard of a couple people doing this (reid mathis, for one), but i can play all the stuff down low on the neck where i know the notes, and it comes out really high. pretty cool. | how long have you been playing for? | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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