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08-09-2007, 03:51 AM
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could anyone help me here, what does "in the pocket" mean in terms of playing with the drummer?
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08-09-2007, 04:40 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Finland | | Search for "pocket" here in general instruction, and you will find the answer. This question is asked rather frequently...
EDIT: For instance, check out this thread: What exactly is 'The pocket'
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08-09-2007, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by mpop101  could anyone help me here, what does "in the pocket" mean in terms of playing with the drummer?
Thanks in advance! | Another way of saying tight, together, locked in, good groove. That band sounding like one.
I believe Victor Wooten said it best....
You can't hold no groove if you ain't got no pocket.
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08-09-2007, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by DocBop Another way of saying tight, together, locked in, good groove. That band sounding like one.
I believe Victor Wooten said it best....
You can't hold no groove if you ain't got no pocket. | Take whatever this man says as golden. |
08-09-2007, 07:52 PM
| | gone to Longstanton Spice Museum | | Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: UK | | | it means many things, but one thing it means is this:
that you subdivide beats with the same feel as your drummer
a LOT of styles, such as jazz, blues, funk, R & B, etc, do not divide beats up into strictly regimented quantized parts like a computer would... there's a mysterious region between straight eighths and tripletized eighths where the 'swing' lies... and a similar thing applies to 'swung' 16ths... they ain't triplets and they ain't straight... and the amount of swing varies depending on the tempo... the faster you get, the straighter the eighths
being 'in the pocket' partly means both of you have an awareness of where the swing lies, and that you match each other's feel
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08-09-2007, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by cowsgomoo it means many things, but one thing it means is this:
that you subdivide beats with the same feel as your drummer
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being 'in the pocket' partly means both of you have an awareness of where the swing lies, and that you match each other's feel | I think that is a damn fine way to explain it! |
08-10-2007, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Thangfish I think that is a damn fine way to explain it! | Yes, in-deed!
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08-10-2007, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by mpop101 could anyone help me here, what does "in the pocket" mean in terms of playing with the drummer?
Thanks in advance! | The best explanation I heard is from the great drummer Steve Gadd. His explanation was :the pocket is an agreement on where the ONE is. I think it says it all.
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08-10-2007, 08:26 AM
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08-10-2007, 10:38 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Washington, DC | | | I think of playing "in the pocket" to be when the rhythm section is in sync on a funky groove and it just works like magic. When you're in the pocket, you know it.
It also tends to be a very repetitive groove, but it doesn't have to be.
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08-10-2007, 11:56 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: No Cal | | | IMO, it's all about creating a solid, rythmic foundation for the lead instruments allowing them, whether it be guitar, keys, vocals etc. to ride on. It is an essential ingredient no matter what genre your working with.
When it's there you'll notice heads bobbing to the groove from the stage to the audience.
Make no mistake about it...it is key. Best Regards, ITP2 |
08-10-2007, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by cowsgomoo it means many things, but one thing it means is this:
that you subdivide beats with the same feel as your drummer
a LOT of styles, such as jazz, blues, funk, R & B, etc, do not divide beats up into strictly regimented quantized parts like a computer would... there's a mysterious region between straight eighths and tripletized eighths where the 'swing' lies... and a similar thing applies to 'swung' 16ths... they ain't triplets and they ain't straight... and the amount of swing varies depending on the tempo... the faster you get, the straighter the eighths
being 'in the pocket' partly means both of you have an awareness of where the swing lies, and that you match each other's feel | I like this one here. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | 
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