Polyrhythms

[Milk_Steak]

anybody know any good resources for learning polyrhythms, any advice or tips would be greatly appreciated as well.

[ric4682]

I'm also really interested in this.

[Milk_Steak]

some crazy awesome sounding ones on youtube would love to figure out how to do that or even a simple one

[Fergie Fulton]

check out Peter Magadini stuff on youtube,

"POLYRHYTHMS"... an Introduction ( for all musicians ) - YouTube

also his books are used by a few drummers i know, his book
"Polyrhythms - The Musician's Guide", is on my list of reading for next year. He seems to be the most popular author on the subject of most good drummers i speak with plus i believe his book has a CD with it to help show the things he talks about it. For me that is the must having the visual, the explanation then the demonstration so you fully use all your senses to understand what is happening.

[Roscoe East]

Many years ago I took an undergraduate course taught by Larry Bethune called "Rhythmic Ear Training", and the thing I remember most vividly from that class was the way Larry taught polyrhythms: He said it was necessary to learn to hear the composite rhythm first before trying to figure out how to play the individual components. So, for example, if you're presented with a 4:5-tuplet, rather than thinking "uh, so each partial of the tuplet would be, um, 1.20% longer than a quarter note...er...wait..." you instead know that the combination of the four-against-five is going to go
"BLAP, skee-bop, tick-tock, bonk-dee, bomp"
and then you just play your designated subset of that sound.

Okay, you had to be there...

[Fergie Fulton]

Actually going to bite the bullet and get the book today, so found it on Amazon, and it is now on the way......looking forward to a good right.

[mambo4]

Learning West African hand drum patterns, especially ones related to the bembe pattern, is a great way to get some poly rhythms under your belt. Lots of 6 vs 4 going on there.

I agree with Roscoe, that learning the feel of the composite pattern first before breaking it down is important -it's too easy to get "stuck" in one of the two otherwise.

[miltslackford]

Books by Jerry Leake - Rhombus Publishing, are excellent. Try 'African bell ritual' and 'Relating sound and time'

Check out his website and his videos he's really cool

[Anonymatt]

Mike Longo's DVD "The Rhythmic Nature of Jazz" is not so great in terms of videography, but I had a handful of "a-ha" moments that help me hear polyrhythmic stuff more naturally.

[mambo4]

Originally Posted by Anonymatt

Mike Longo's DVD "The Rhythmic Nature of Jazz" is not so great in terms of videography, but I had a handful of "a-ha" moments that help me hear polyrhythmic stuff more naturally.

I heard Hal Galper recommend this in his you tube vids. where did you get it?

[AFRO]

If you have access to iTunes, I downloaded (for Free) " The Labrinth of Music Theory" -Metatheseus.- There is a couple sections on Meter, where he goes in to some detail on the Polyrythmic aspects of things like African drum music, and Gambling music.

He uses terms like 3 against 5 (7 against 11) the like. check it out. kinda still trying to wrap my head around some of its content. but its worth a look for free info.
my 0.02 cents

[hleach]

rhythmweb.com/shed/

[Anonymatt]

The Rhythmic Nature of Jazz for the Mike Longo DVD. I went ahead and got his "Sightreading Syncopated-Type Rhythms", which is very neat and kinda different. Oh me, though, I've got so much ordinary practicing to do that I haven't gotten around to reprogramming my rhythmic sense.


Rhythmweb looks dope!

[Lobster11]

Billy Martin (Medeski Martin and Wood) has a great book on this. Check out this video preview:

Billy Martin's Riddim book tour - YouTube