Q regarding Hadrien noodling on F-clef basses video reprise.

asberrys · #1 11-17-2009, 02:18 PM

I think this has been asked before but not recently so I am going to ask it again.
Anyone know any of the scales or sequences he is using here?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0mTzlOxJaw

I am not asking for a transcription or anything but merely a suggestion in regards to scales and sequences.Merci.

The run there at 3:34-40 seems to be something he uses alot.TIA

JimmyM · #2 11-18-2009, 07:32 PM

Other guys who can pick that quick stuff out quicker than me could tell you the notes and you'll see chords emerge out of it, but I don't know that I'm hearing scales. Sounds more like he's going totally chromatic and not really playing scales. Which is the way it should be...when you play, you shouldn't sound like you're running scales.

asberrys · #3 11-19-2009, 05:04 PM

I think you are right on both counts JimmyM.

Maybe he is running 4ths or 6ths.Maybe some tritones.
I like it,it sounds real Birdish or Traney.

fdeck · #4 11-19-2009, 08:13 PM

I couldn't discern any specific scale, but my ears aren't that quick. I was also watching his fingers for clues, and it didn't help much.

But those guys who play fretted bass always sound so much like Jaco.

asberrys · #5 11-19-2009, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by fdeck

I couldn't discern any specific scale, but my ears aren't that quick. I was also watching his fingers for clues, and it didn't help much.

But those guys who play fretted bass always sound so much like Jaco.

Everyone gets accused of that and perhaps you are right.He is playing Teen town there at the end so of course he sounds Jacoish here.

But you know,as much as I love Jaco,Hadrien seems to be faster and more fluid.He definetly brings something original.

thndrstk6 · #6 11-19-2009, 10:21 PM

I've been toying with this stuff recently and I think I've figured it out for the most part.

He's just running a motif of repeating patterns that he's come up with. There's lots of
4th and diminished interval jumping and moving in a chromatic way. In the end you
have to resolve it to something tonic or pleasant. Other than that you can pretty much
just go crazy with it. Just play around with 4ths, b5s, and chromatics and you should
have a decent idea as to what he's doing.

JimmyM · #7 11-20-2009, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by asberrys

But you know,as much as I love Jaco,Hadrien seems to be faster and more fluid.He definetly brings something original.

I like Hadrien's playing. Not as much a fan of his tone as his playing, but the kid can do some damage so I can overlook a little mid honkiness. That's his thing, though, and you'll be able to recognize him by that sound, so even though it ain't my thing, it's a pretty smart move. He comes on here once in a while.

Trapezius · #8 11-20-2009, 02:57 AM

It's really hard to get what he's doing just from listening to it, but it sounds cromatic-ish and looks pretty tricky.

Not trying to hijack the thread, but does anyone know how the )¤#( he does that 4 or 5-finger plucking he sometimes does? It's so fast I can't belive it. It's hard to see how many fingers he uses.

asberrys · #9 11-20-2009, 05:12 AM

That's the Matt Garrison technique.See the sticky either in this forum or the Technique forum.

Trapezius · #10 11-20-2009, 09:06 AM

Thanks! Eyes aren't working today

dougjwray · #11 11-20-2009, 09:31 AM

I didn't take the time to really analyze it, but some of it sounds like he's noodling around with an octatonic scale (fancy name for the scale solely made up of alternating whole steps and half steps). You can do some impressive sounding noodling with that scale!
He's *mighty* impressive, but I'm still waiting for him to break out of the Jaco thing and get a more individual voice.

asberrys · #12 11-26-2009, 06:29 PM

Does Hadrien alternate every finger or does he rake?
Can one play that fast without raking?
Assuming you pick every note,which he does.