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09-20-2008, 12:35 PM
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Is a song only bound to only one key at a time?
For example, if a song is in the key of G does the song have to remain in that key till song is over or can the song be in the key of G and at a later part be in the key of B or whatever? | 
09-20-2008, 12:40 PM
|  | I took the one less traveled by | | Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Reims, Champagne, France | | | You can change keys during the song. One of the simplest way and most common way to do it is transposition. For example you raise the whole harmony by one tone to increase tension in the song. | 
09-20-2008, 12:42 PM
| | | | Most songs change key (modulate) several times - they would be really boring otherwise. At it's simplest, as soon as a note that isn't in the key of G starts appearing, such as a D sharp, C sharp, G sharp, or any flatted note, the song has changed key. | 
09-20-2008, 12:53 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: MD | | | Some of the more complex tunes might change keys every bar (Giant Steps, Countdown), and 20th century classical pieces might not have any key center at all. Key's aren't sacred - music would be pretty boring if every song stayed in the key it started in.
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09-20-2008, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by pete honeyman Most songs change key (modulate) several times - they would be really boring otherwise. At it's simplest, as soon as a note that isn't in the key of G starts appearing, such as a D sharp, C sharp, G sharp, or any flatted note, the song has changed key. | Not necessarily. You can have modal interchange and not change key, and secondary dominant patterns aren't necessarily a change of key either. If we're talking classical music, you also have that funny Neopolitan sixth chord - bII major - and that is still in the home key.
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09-20-2008, 01:06 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hamilton Ontario, (60miles wes | | | The easist way to modulate to another key is to introduce the five cord of the new key then make the change.
Take a 12-bar in the key of G on the 12th bar(the turn-a-round) play F#7 instead of D7 now your in the key of B. Then at the 12-bar in the new key play Bb7 instead of F#7 and introduce the new key of Eb. Then at the 12-bar play D7 then you're back to the original key of G.
It's a simple exercise that works and it sounds like you doing something different than playing 36-bars in G. | 
09-20-2008, 01:23 PM
|  | I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize! | | Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ottawa, Canada | | | Quite a few country songs change key. A key change can change the mood of a song. It can make a song sound sadder, for example.
A great example of a song with key changes is Johnny Cash's "Five Feet High and Rising". It changes key every verse.
But most rock/pop/country songs stay in one key. | 
09-20-2008, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by HaVIC5 Not necessarily. You can have modal interchange and not change key, and secondary dominant patterns aren't necessarily a change of key either. If we're talking classical music, you also have that funny Neopolitan sixth chord - bII major - and that is still in the home key. | Absolutely, but that's a level of complexity that I don't think the poster was looking for at this stage. | 
09-20-2008, 04:40 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cincinnati | | | check out Bobby Hebb's "Sunny". Same silly song in 4 different keys.
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09-21-2008, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by pete honeyman Most songs change key (modulate) several times - they would be really boring otherwise. At it's simplest, as soon as a note that isn't in the key of G starts appearing, such as a D sharp, C sharp, G sharp, or any flatted note, the song has changed key. | That isn't really true at all. "Key" is about where the centre of tonality is. A passing tone outside of the diatonic "key" does not modulate the tonal centre. You can still have an E7 resolving to Aminor and still be "in key".
To answer the OP, there is no reason why you have to stay within the framework of a "key" for the duration of an entire piece of music.
Oh, by the way the key of G has an F# in it.
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09-21-2008, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by pete honeyman Most songs change key (modulate) several times - they would be really boring otherwise. At it's simplest, as soon as a note that isn't in the key of G starts appearing, such as a D sharp, C sharp, G sharp, or any flatted note, the song has changed key. | Do you even know what a key change is? Because you're post here says you don't. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | |
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