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10-17-2008, 11:27 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Anaheim, California | | | Reading Music can anyone suggest a book or direct me to a site where i can learn how to read sheet music?
people may think it's a waste of time, but being the growing bassist i am, i'd like to learn how to read music in case a situation arises such as an audition or what have you, i'll be prepared.
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10-18-2008, 02:29 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: Athens, Greece | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Icarus26 can anyone suggest a book or direct me to a site where i can learn how to read sheet music?
people may think it's a waste of time, but being the growing bassist i am, i'd like to learn how to read music in case a situation arises such as an audition or what have you, i'll be prepared.
thanks. | http://www.studybass.com/lessons/reading-music/ for a very quick course. http://www.thelibster.com/bass/ (go to Lessons->Reading) for more details.
By the way, what I found that helped me more to understand traditional music notation was writing sheet music for songs I only had tabs for. The studybass site also has a quiz for help you learn what line refers to which note. | 
10-18-2008, 05:54 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Boca Raton, Florida | | | Just get a transcription book of your favorite band and cover the tab lines to force your self to read.
Also Etudes are good reading
A good book IMO is Sight Reading for the Bass by Ron Velosky
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10-18-2008, 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Icarus26 can anyone suggest a book or direct me to a site where i can learn how to read sheet music?
people may think it's a waste of time, but being the growing bassist i am, i'd like to learn how to read music in case a situation arises such as an audition or what have you, i'll be prepared.
thanks. | It is NOT a waste of time IMO.
it is a basic "requirement" as far as I'm concerned and will make it easier to communicate.( not saying , some people don't get by without it)
I would not suggest you go for any "teach me how to read music"book but read anything you can get your hands on.
Also study transcriptions of tunes you know so you understand the relationship between what you see and what you hear.
A consistent practise regime also helps-if you get into a routine it will feel less like "work".
And...keep well clear of tab- "the lazy man's substitute for real information" ( I have never seen tab being used in "the real world"...again, that's just me...)
My two cent... 
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10-18-2008, 06:11 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Yonderville Georgia | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Icarus26 can anyone suggest a book or direct me to a site where i can learn how to read sheet music?
people may think it's a waste of time, but being the growing bassist i am, i'd like to learn how to read music in case a situation arises such as an audition or what have you, i'll be prepared.
thanks. | www.studybass.com
IMO learning to read music is not a waste of time. Not learning to read is a waste of time!
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10-18-2008, 10:07 AM
|  | Registered User Endorsing: Ampeg | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Apopka, FL | | | Anyone who thinks it's a waste of time obviously doesn't read music. The time you spend learning to read music will greatly be offset by the time you save trying to fumble around figuring out stuff with no frame of reference.
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10-18-2008, 10:30 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Winston Salem, NC | | | It's a waste of time if your goal is to play clubs and rock bands. Learn to Read!
There are several beginning bass books that explain the staff and the note placement and values. Forget tabs- that is a crutch. Once you can read basic stuff- find a note on the staff and play it in time, then write out a simple bass part- a great way to learn is to see what you are playing. Write out triads, too, in quarter notes. This will help you to see, notes, rhythm patterns, and riffs as a group, rather than individual notes- and this is the key to being a good reader.
Also, learn to read both bass and treble clefs- it's not hard to do, and is a big help when you get with other readers. I can sight transpose- a good thing to learn. I was playing Thursday and the leader lit into a jazz tune I didn't know. I didn't have the chart but I was able to read it off the Bb book.
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Get transcriptions of bass parts and read along with the recording. If you have Cubase or a similar program that will play back a midi file while displaying a score, use this to "connect" seeing with playing.
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10-18-2008, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by azureblue It's a waste of time if your goal is to play clubs and rock bands. | I disagree completely, although I do agree with your emphasis on learning to read. Even playing in rock bands, which I did for years, reading has been quite handy. It makes the difference between aping licks off records and being able to write your own.
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10-18-2008, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by LowDown Hal | that book a rip off in my opinion
it's good, but way too short and simple
the 3 volume one that combines the 3 parts is much better. It also saves you money | 
10-18-2008, 11:09 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Altoona PA | | Im new to playing as well, I got "The Complete Idiots Guide to Playing Bass Guitar" it was like 24$ at barnes and noble. Its one of those large 10x12 sized trade paperbacks. 300 pages and includes alot about every aspect , but at least 200 pages of it is reading music and music theory. So far in a few months i learned my scales, how to read the notes, and starting to learn about half notes, 1/4 notes etc and im only on page 80. It also comes with a CD with played examples of what they are talking about. Its written by David Hodge who it says is a teacher at berkshire music school, and endorsed by Dan Lakin owner of lakland bass. For the price of a half an hour lesson you get alot i think.
Alot of my friends keep telling me this crap is all a waste to learn as well, just come play everynite youll never need to know any of that stuff. But i disagree, Im sure i could come over and they could teach me how to play thier songs and keep up with them, but i want to know how to do it on my own. How to play any song i want, and how to write my own. As soon as im back to work im going to take lessons, I think the more i know from this book the less lessons ill have to pay for if i already know the basics. http://www.overstock.com/Books-Movie...ci_sku=3544724
15$ at overstock.com | 
10-18-2008, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by steve66
A good book IMO is Sight Reading for the Bass by Ron Velosky | +1, Great Book. | 
10-18-2008, 11:35 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Brooklyn, NYC | | | When it comes down to it, there isn't much to "learn" out of a book when it comes to reading. Yes, there's the basics, like where notes are on the staff, and rhythms and things like that, but ultimately sight-reading is something that has to be practiced. A lot. A whole hell of a lot. It's not something that can be solved with a magic bullet the way that some theory concepts can be explained.
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10-18-2008, 02:46 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Icarus26 can anyone suggest a book or direct me to a site where i can learn how to read sheet music?
people may think it's a waste of time, but being the growing bassist i am, i'd like to learn how to read music in case a situation arises such as an audition or what have you, i'll be prepared.
thanks. | You're the one posting about majoring in music in college, you better get your reading and sightreading together, better now than trying to do it while learning theory, composition, and playing in ensembles.
The book I like to recommend is Simplified Sight-Reading for Bass by Josquin des Pres. Has a play a long CD and focuses on rhythms first then adds notes. Then get your hands on as much reading material as you can. DB books are good for working on reading like Simandl or Rufus Reid. Berklee has some good books especially the Chord Studies book. Check out Jim Stinnett website he has some good books on reading.
Like HaVIS said the key to learning to read is DAILY practice. You are learning to speak an new language and train your eyes to read a new language. Reading is one of those things for everyday you skip you fall back two. Until your are a fluent reader you just have to do it everyday even if only for 15 minutes.
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10-18-2008, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DocBop You're the one posting about majoring in music in college, you better get your reading and sightreading together, better now than trying to do it while learning theory, composition, and playing in ensembles.
The book I like to recommend is Simplified Sight-Reading for Bass by Josquin des Pres. Has a play a long CD and focuses on rhythms first then adds notes. Then get your hands on as much reading material as you can. DB books are good for working on reading like Simandl or Rufus Reid. Berklee has some good books especially the Chord Studies book. Check out Jim Stinnett website he has some good books on reading.
Like HaVIS said the key to learning to read is DAILY practice. You are learning to speak an new language and train your eyes to read a new language. Reading is one of those things for everyday you skip you fall back two. Until your are a fluent reader you just have to do it everyday even if only for 15 minutes. | Yep...when you can read 3 or 4 bars ahead of what you're playing, then you're in business. Till then, practice every day.
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10-18-2008, 03:45 PM
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10-19-2008, 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by azureblue It's a waste of time if your goal is to play clubs and rock bands. Learn to Read!
There are several beginning bass books that explain the staff and the note placement and values. Forget tabs- that is a crutch. Once you can read basic stuff- find a note on the staff and play it in time, then write out a simple bass part- a great way to learn is to see what you are playing. Write out triads, too, in quarter notes. This will help you to see, notes, rhythm patterns, and riffs as a group, rather than individual notes- and this is the key to being a good reader.
Also, learn to read both bass and treble clefs- it's not hard to do, and is a big help when you get with other readers. I can sight transpose- a good thing to learn. I was playing Thursday and the leader lit into a jazz tune I didn't know. I didn't have the chart but I was able to read it off the Bb book.
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Get transcriptions of bass parts and read along with the recording. If you have Cubase or a similar program that will play back a midi file while displaying a score, use this to "connect" seeing with playing. | I agree with this post!!
But...what's with the first statement-It's a waste of time if your goal is to play in clubs and rockbands...???? | 
10-19-2008, 07:08 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Park City, Utah | | The Velosky book is a great place to start!
I've been working for the last couple of weeks out of a book called "sightreading jazz" by Bob Taylor (bass clef). I have found it to be very helpful and quite challenging. There is a lot of good sightreading material in it, both etudes for note reading in each key and pages of rhythms. http://www.visual-jazz.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=2
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