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03-05-2007, 01:34 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Timisoara, Romania | |  Recommend me some jazz funk lessons / instructionals
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Recommend me some jazz funk lessons / instructionals !
I have no groove, to say it straight. 
Actually I'm stuck in the blues scale when I jam funk.
Please tell me how to get out of this scale.
Thanks a lot 
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03-05-2007, 05:10 AM
|  | Musical Anarchist | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sutton, MA | | | You really can't learn funk from a book. You have to feel it. First do a search on here as there's lots of info about this.
Then you should start by listening to a lot of funk. Start with some James Brown stuff. Just about anything with James Jamerson, Jerry Jemmott, Chuck Rainey, Bootsy Collins (and a whole bunch more you'll discover in your search) playing bass. |
03-05-2007, 10:55 AM
| | The most hurtful thing ever realized | | Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Ann Arbor, MI | | Quote:
Originally Posted by Freddels  You really can't learn funk from a book. You have to feel it. First do a search on here as there's lots of info about this.
Then you should start by listening to a lot of funk. Start with some James Brown stuff. Just about anything with James Jamerson, Jerry Jemmott, Chuck Rainey, Bootsy Collins (and a whole bunch more you'll discover in your search) playing bass. | yup.
you have to become a little funky to play funky...get a bunch of funk albums..each practice...spend an hour dancing to them..then start practicing playing them 
but a few funk/jazz albums that I LOVE are Herbie Hancock "Man Child" and Jimmy McGriff "Electric Funk"
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03-05-2007, 02:52 PM
| | | | Don't believe the misconception that you have to live it before you can play it, or that by just listening to good players you'll learn it. You actually have to put some work into it.
Start with Carol Kaye's "Rock-Funk CD and Guide". Also you need her "Bass DVD Course". That'll get you past being stuck on playing pentatonic scales as the basis for everything. Go to her website for ordering information. The prices are reasonable. I recommend both of those highly. |
03-05-2007, 05:29 PM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: S.W.Side of Chicago-U.P. Mich. | | | MichiBass, I'll recommend this, go the the "recordings" topic thread, and read " Is funk a dying genre"? There's a bit of history about the style of FUNK, and some great song clips with some excellent Funk tune's! Got to know the history b-4 you can FUNK!
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03-05-2007, 10:53 PM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: oklahoma | | | if your looking for a book, the bass builders funk book was informative to me. . its not a play along it has exercises and history and so forth and a lot of different style songs (stay by chaka khan, virtaul insanity, some maxwell and so forth). I grew up on funk and i kinda had the funk from day one lol but you gotta work on it. Its not all slap I suck at slap the finger funk can be very fun and so so sexy. |
03-06-2007, 03:35 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Timisoara, Romania | | | Thanx a lot for your answers.
For first I put on my iPod a Funk compilation from the 70ies. That rules!
Recommendations should go on.
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03-06-2007, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by 62bass Don't believe the misconception that you have to live it before you can play it | oh yeah? well of course you can play anything without doing much....when he says he wants to learn to play funk...i assume he wants to learn to play it very well and really get into the genre......
and funk is all about feel......so to be a good funk player you have to feel the funk yourself.....which is kinda true with a lot of genres...but more so funk i think
but yeah if you just want to learn 20 cliche funk riffs....go get a book....
you are right though...it takes a lot of traditional practice....but also A LOT of feel...
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03-06-2007, 07:33 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Austin, Texas | | Do a lot of hot, sweaty, work. Don't take a shower for 3 weeks. Pick up your bass and play. You will be funky.
Seriously, try learning some 'easy' funk grooves like 'Chameleon' or the refrain from 'Give up the Funk'; 'Shotgun' by Jr. Walker is good, too. 
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03-06-2007, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Bayou_Brawler oh yeah? well of course you can play anything without doing much....when he says he wants to learn to play funk...i assume he wants to learn to play it very well and really get into the genre......
and funk is all about feel......so to be a good funk player you have to feel the funk yourself.....which is kinda true with a lot of genres...but more so funk i think
but yeah if you just want to learn 20 cliche funk riffs....go get a book....
you are right though...it takes a lot of traditional practice....but also A LOT of feel... | You are certainly right that feel is the thing and to play it really well, of course you have to do a lot of it. Just listening and reading parts won't do it, and that's true with any genre. I suggested the study first to get MichiBass the theory needed to get away from reliance on the pentatonic scale for one thing. Excellent time is also needed and the materials I suggested will help with that. Listening to all the suggestions above will help a lot but you need to have somewhere to start and it's nice to get the basics down first. I think that holds true for any style of music.
Some guys seem to get it just by listening and copying and soon develop their own style. Everyone is different.
Of course, what a person gets from studying any of these things depends on how much he puts into it.And you have to get out and play a lot to be anything but an amateur player. |
03-06-2007, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Bayou_Brawler oh yeah? well of course you can play anything without doing much....when he says he wants to learn to play funk...i assume he wants to learn to play it very well and really get into the genre......
and funk is all about feel......so to be a good funk player you have to feel the funk yourself.....which is kinda true with a lot of genres...but more so funk i think
but yeah if you just want to learn 20 cliche funk riffs....go get a book....
you are right though...it takes a lot of traditional practice....but also A LOT of feel... | Amen to that, funk is not as easy as picking it up from an instructional book. Besides, a lot funk has some strange elements to it. For instance, Herbie Hancock was mentioned - his stuff IS the epitome of funk. It makes you bop your head, shake that ass, and say to yourself "Damn! Thats funky!" But his music is very jazz influenced. Pretty much because thats where he came from on his way to the funk genre. Look at stuff like watermelon man, and the Thrust album. Having said that, some of his songs could teach you a lot. My personal favourite funk of all time is "Ready or not" : That bass line has everything a funk line could possibly want.
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05-29-2007, 04:33 AM
| | Registered User | | Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Timisoara, Romania | | | Another albums to reccomend?
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