Remeber the kid who didn't know a lick of theory?

[fountain boy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32NgVpuUzF8

[mutedeity]

Yeah, and remember how we came to the conclusion that it was a stupid assumption that he didn't know a "lick" of theory. Ho-hum at this again.

[Deacon_Blues]

Where's the corrected spelling?

Anyway, sounds like that boy can play. Would have loved to hear something else than a solo though.

[fountain boy]

Originally Posted by Deacon_Blues

Where's the corrected spelling?

Anyway, sounds like that boy can play. Would have loved to hear something else than a solo though.

au contraire, there's more!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2iucLH1r6o&NR=1

[Marcury]

How do you know he doesn't "know a lick of theory"?

[mimaz]

I would love to take a listen, but the audio is SO distorted.........is it just my connection?

[fountain boy]

Originally Posted by Marcury

How do you know he doesn't "know a lick of theory"?

I'm saying. You grooving like that at 12, it's a given that he has natural talent and is an ear player.

If you notice in the 2nd clip, where they stop playing for a few seconds (@ the 3:20 mark) and he starts back up, he is playing Andrew Gouche's theme song on off the MTD website. Apparently, he's playing it wrong (as Mr. Gouche takes his bass from him, demonstrates it properly, and hands it back to him to attempt it again) Watch how closely he takes notice of Gouche's hands.

He's the type that can pick up from watching & listening. Didn't Jaco say about himself that that was how he learned, by watching the positioning of the players hands & so forth.

Same thing. I'm willing to bet you that Matthew was born with perfect pitch. (not making excuses for his superior playing)

I don't know the kid but if you observe where he's on stage playing, right before Mr. Gouche ganks back his MTD, notice how he's not even focusing on any chord progressions, hand positions, nothing, he's just going by 'feel' and using his ear.

[theroan]

Ya, but he was always better than me. Bastard.

[Dr. Cheese]

With the family that kid has, I can't see him not knowing any theory. He is just a young player. I think there may be a bit of subconscious jealousy trying to explain away a kid that can play better than a whole lot of us adults!

[Marcury]

Originally Posted by fountain boy

I'm saying. You grooving like that at 12, it's a given that he has natural talent and is an ear player.

If you notice in the 2nd clip, where they stop playing for a few seconds (@ the 3:20 mark) and he starts back up, he is playing Andrew Gouche's theme song on off the MTD website. Apparently, he's playing it wrong (as Mr. Gouche takes his bass from him, demonstrates it properly, and hands it back to him to attempt it again) Watch how closely he takes notice of Gouche's hands.

He's the type that can pick up from watching & listening. Didn't Jaco say about himself that that was how he learned, by watching the positioning of the players hands & so forth.

Same thing. I'm willing to bet you that Matthew was born with perfect pitch. (not making excuses for his superior playing)

I don't know the kid but if you observe where he's on stage playing, right before Mr. Gouche ganks back his MTD, notice how he's not even focusing on any chord progressions, hand positions, nothing, he's just going by 'feel' and using his ear.

That's a lot of assumptions. Kids got a lot of talent, but beyond that you're making it up.

Originally Posted by Dr. Cheese

With the family that kid has, I can't see him not knowing any theory. He is just a young player. I think there may be a bit of subconscious jealousy trying to explain away a kid that can play better than a whole lot of us adults!

Amen!

[christmetal]

that kid is good
very good
hes got an ear for music
only some have that gifted ability

[fountain boy]

[quote=Marcury;6186511]That's a lot of assumptions. Kids got a lot of talent, but beyond that you're making it up.


A lot of assumptions. Okay. Let's see. You're assuming too. You assume that he knows theory, in a technical, clinical, root third fifth way.

We can agree that what we are witnessing, is a young musical director in training. It starts with the ear and it's not always the keyboardist's or guitarist that only understand things harmonically.

Yes, i believe that he has perfect pitch, yes that's an assumption.

Again, i believe that he's not as studied in theory (book wise) but has a superior ear that makes up for any deficient clinical booky knowledge. That's an assumption to.

In fact, watching him, it appears that while he's playing in front of and audience he seems to get a little a-d-d -ish. (due to him maybe having a short attention span)

[fountain boy]

Originally Posted by Dr. Cheese

With the family that kid has, I can't see him not knowing any theory. He is just a young player. I think there may be a bit of subconscious jealousy trying to explain away a kid that can play better than a whole lot of us adults!

I agree Dr.

[Marcury]

Originally Posted by fountain boy

A lot of assumptions. Okay. Let's see. You're assuming too. You assume that he knows theory, in a technical, clinical, root third fifth way.

I'm not assuming that he knows or doesn't know theory.

All I know is he's got talent.

We can agree that what we are witnessing, is a young musical director in training.

No we can't. He's a twelve year old kid with talent

It starts with the ear and it's not always the keyboardist's or guitarist that only understand things harmonically.

Huh?

Yes, i believe that he has perfect pitch, yes that's an assumption.

Again, i believe that he's not as studied in theory (book wise) but has a superior ear that makes up for any deficient clinical booky knowledge. That's an assumption to.

In fact, watching him, it appears that while he's playing in front of and audience he seems to get a little a-d-d -ish. (due to him maybe having a short attention span)

Assumptions all! Particularly that he doesn't "know a lick of theory". Maybe he does maybe he doesn't

[BlackLake]

Originally Posted by mimaz

I would love to take a listen, but the audio is SO distorted.........is it just my connection?

No, your connection is ok, it sounds like utter crap here too.

Sure he can play (I guess), now he needs to work on some stage prescence.

Other than that, I can't say I'm very blown away.

Nice try though.

[JAUQO III-X]

Originally Posted by fountain boy

In fact, watching him, it appears that while he's playing in front of and audience he seems to get a little a-d-d -ish.

Originally Posted by fountain boy

(due to him maybe having a short attention span)

Do you know this to be fact?

[UncleBalsamic]

This thread is a bit silly. Yes there is a kid who is damn good at bass. Well done him I wish I was as talented at his age. But why all this discussion? Does it really matter?

I'm not saying it should stop, this is a discussion forum and if people want to talk about who am I to stop them? It's just we know little to nothing about this kid and we're still arguing over each others assumptions.

That said, well done that kid and I think he knows loads of theory personally

[mutedeity]

Originally Posted by fountain boy

I'm saying. You grooving like that at 12, it's a given that he has natural talent and is an ear player.

If you notice in the 2nd clip, where they stop playing for a few seconds (@ the 3:20 mark) and he starts back up, he is playing Andrew Gouche's theme song on off the MTD website. Apparently, he's playing it wrong (as Mr. Gouche takes his bass from him, demonstrates it properly, and hands it back to him to attempt it again) Watch how closely he takes notice of Gouche's hands.

He's the type that can pick up from watching & listening. Didn't Jaco say about himself that that was how he learned, by watching the positioning of the players hands & so forth.

Same thing. I'm willing to bet you that Matthew was born with perfect pitch. (not making excuses for his superior playing)

I don't know the kid but if you observe where he's on stage playing, right before Mr. Gouche ganks back his MTD, notice how he's not even focusing on any chord progressions, hand positions, nothing, he's just going by 'feel' and using his ear.

Nonsense. We went through this before, you are making a lot of really silly assumptions, my friend.

[fountain boy]

Originally Posted by JAUQO III-X

Do you know this to be fact?

Can't say that i do.

However....

It sure looks that way.

I've never seen someone 'appear to loose intrest' intentionally, unless, said person had some sort've paranoia. Or, was a prodigy, as this young man is.

You can make the argument (semantics) that you don't see him loosing intrest, but you clearly see Gouche wrestle that bass from him when he starts to get too noodly and starts to appear disintrested.

I guess that could be misconstrued as insulting the audience's intelligence because they are paying customers and want to see great showmanship.

[xshawnxearthx]

came here and i'm wondering why this matters?

i mean the kid can groove, who cares if it's natural talent or the kid actually knows something. wish i could groove like that and i don't think learning theory has much to do with it.