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Old 06-04-2010, 07:23 AM
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Is there a website or software that will write out a scale or chord for you to identify?

I have an exam coming as up soon as part of a first year jazz theory paper and one part of it is that we are given written scale/mode or chord, The Parent scale if it has one and then put it into a harmonic progression. so for example you may have an E altered scale written down to identify, you would then go on to say its parent scale is F Jazz Minor and it could function as a dominant chord in a ii-v-i in the key of C Minor (I'm just starting this jazz theory thing so please don't jump on me if this is incorrect...)

The later part of the question i think I'm fine with but I'm just have a bit of trouble quickly being able to identify the scale so am looking for a way to practice this before my exam in a few weeks.

So if you know of anything that maybe emulates the question or could help out please let me know...
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Old 06-04-2010, 08:42 AM
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Don't know of any software that does what you ask. You may have the following already - if not help yourself.

http://www.woodwind.org/clarinet/Stu...les/index.html scroll the screen down to find the scales. Taking that to scale degree may help, i.e. 1, 2, b3, 4, 5, b6, b7 etc. Normally one note difference and you have another scale. For some reason if I visualize them as degrees it clicks. Quick way to identify - look at the 3, 5 and 7 for clues.

http://www.looknohands.com/chordhous.../index_rb.html The scale structure aka WWHWWWH and or 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, etc. may help. On this site WWHWWWH is listed as 221 2221 - I relate that to telephone numbers.

http://www.smithfowler.org/music/Chord_Formulas.htm

http://www.jazzwise.com/catalog/arti...articles_id=10 A must have for any jazz student.

I suppose you will be given information in writing and then asked to identify the scale.
If the verse starts and stops with the same chord that chord is probably the tonic chord thus identifies the key and scale. If all verses stop with that same chord, bet the farm.

Look for the V-I cadence. That will point you to a key.

Copy all the notes, eliminate duplications, put what is left in alphabetical order. See if those notes will fit into a specific scale --- all of the notes not just a few, if all fit thats the scale. Helps to have a handy dandy scale chart. I gave you one above.

If you are given chords, do the same, here ignore fancy extensions, you are interested in the function part of the chord, normally the left hand portion of the chord - see if all will fit into a key.

If you could hear the melody listen for the tonal center, that's your key thus your scale.

Other than that you are on your own.

Good luck.

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Is there a website or software that will write out a scale or chord for you to identify?

I have an exam coming as up soon as part of a first year jazz theory paper and one part of it is that we are given written scale/mode or chord, The Parent scale if it has one and then put it into a harmonic progression. so for example you may have an E altered scale written down to identify, you would then go on to say its parent scale is F Jazz Minor and it could function as a dominant chord in a ii-v-i in the key of C Minor (I'm just starting this jazz theory thing so please don't jump on me if this is incorrect...)

The later part of the question i think I'm fine with but I'm just have a bit of trouble quickly being able to identify the scale so am looking for a way to practice this before my exam in a few weeks.

So if you know of anything that maybe emulates the question or could help out please let me know...
How many examples are covered in class & in your book? How many were part of other assignments? Review them all, read them, write them all, speak the notes as you write them. Software will not give you the visual, auditory & muscle memory clues to internalize the basic knowledge. You have a few weeks? How many could you review each day? Could you review all of them twice a day for 10 days?

Need material for practice? Download Jamie Aebersold's Jazz Handbook & work through the scales; http://www.jazzbooks.com/mm5/merchan...re_Code=JAJAZZ
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How many examples are covered in class & in your book? How many were part of other assignments? Review them all, read them, write them all, speak the notes as you write them. Software will not give you the visual, auditory & muscle memory clues to internalize the basic knowledge. You have a few weeks? How many could you review each day? Could you review all of them twice a day for 10 days?

Need material for practice? Download Jamie Aebersold's Jazz Handbook & work through the scales; http://www.jazzbooks.com/mm5/merchan...re_Code=JAJAZZ
It's pretty much the 12 major keys/modes, Harmonic minor - 1st, 2nd & 5th modes & Jazz Minor and it's modes Lydian dom, Locrian #2 & Super Locrian, so not to tough

I've pretty much just been writing them out and and trying to memorize them. I'm finding writing them out a whole lot easier than just identifying them which i think is just cause i can work backwards.
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It's pretty much the 12 major keys/modes, Harmonic minor - 1st, 2nd & 5th modes & Jazz Minor and it's modes Lydian dom, Locrian #2 & Super Locrian, so not to tough

I've pretty much just been writing them out and and trying to memorize them. I'm finding writing them out a whole lot easier than just identifying them which i think is just cause i can work backwards.
That sounds do-able, leaving time for other things.

I too, find writing is a great way to remember things. With scales I like to work with Half/Whole sequences. It seems easier to me to identify a H/W pattern than analyzing which note(s) are flat relative to a possible scale perhaps choosing wrong & having to guess again. The Jazz Handbook lists all of the H/W sequences, when I need it I just write for a few days. YRMV.

I used to take tests by turning the essay booklet over, reproducing the chart or table & using it for reference. Sometimes, I could not reproduce the info 6 hours later. I find it best to know my own limits & plan at least 1 way to work around the way I operate. 8-)

Good luck with the exams.
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