Scale patterns for Hungarian and Melodic Minor scales?

[Byzcat]

OK, so I'm back in lessons again, learning some scales that my first teacher never taught me.

Does anybody know any good patterns for practicing the Hungarian and Melodic Minor scales?

(Don't read music, so tab is appreciated)

[onlyclave]

Here is a fingering for melodic minor.

If you're taking lessons again, 1) Why isn't your teacher teaching you the notes of these scales so you can find them on the fingerboard as opposed to memorizing a pattern?

and 2) Why is he teaching you Hungarian minor? Tell him to throw away the Bass Grimoire and stop trying to teach from it.

[Byzcat]

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1)He's already teaching me more than my first teacher did- all my first teacher taught me was the basic major and minor, and minor pentatonic, and a few songs.
2)I'm a big Blackmore fan and also like Middle Eastern music, so he's teaching me what will get me playing the kind of music I like

And thanks.

[Jim Campbell]

Originally Posted by Byzcat

^
1)He's already teaching me more than my first teacher did- all my first teacher taught me was the basic major and minor, and minor pentatonic, and a few songs.
2)I'm a big Blackmore fan and also like Middle Eastern music, so he's teaching me what will get me playing the kind of music I like

And thanks.

blackmore may have played that stuff but i've seen enough purple charts to know that glover didn't.......

[Vendele197]

The Hungarian Minor is a Harmonic Minor scale with a #4. In C, the notes would be C, D, Eb, F#, G, Ab, B, C.

Tab:

|-----------------------4--5-
|-------------4--5--6-------
|---3--5--6-----------------
|----------------------------

That's a movable pattern, so if you want to play G Hungarian Minor, for example, start on the 3rd fret of the E string and play the same pattern.

[Byzcat]

Originally Posted by Vendele197

The Hungarian Minor is a Harmonic Minor scale with a #4. In C, the notes would be C, D, Eb, F#, G, Ab, B, C.

Tab:

|-----------------------4--5-
|-------------4--5--6-------
|---3--5--6-----------------
|----------------------------

That's a movable pattern, so if you want to play G Hungarian Minor, for example, start on the 3rd fret of the E string and play the same pattern.

This much I know- I can already move scales around pretty well, and even find the notes elsewhere on the fretboard.

I was looking for being able to do something more than just run up and down the scale, though.

[Vendele197]

Then practice playing a the scale in a particular key, but not starting and ending on 1. For example, play C Hungarian Minor from D to D, Eb to Eb, etc.

Also see if you can apply Pacman's sure-fire scale practice method to these scales as well.

As for tablature for said ideas, I don't think I can help you. There's no one way to play a scale. It just depends on when you shift and cross strings. Learn the notes, and then find all the different places you can play said notes.

[Byzcat]

Ah, yes, Pacman's method. I've actually been doing that a bit, though not as much as I should- I've been really heavily working with the metronome.

Oh, and I know... Roger Glover didn't use this stuff, I've been listening to a lot of Dio-era Rainbow lately.

I consider the bass line from "Smoke on the Water" to be an exercise in what a bass player can do with the Minor Pentatonic scale and a lot of really good weed.

[Vendele197]

Originally Posted by Byzcat

I consider the bass line from "Smoke on the Water" to be an exercise in what a bass player can do with the Minor Pentatonic scale and a lot of really good weed.

+1

I haven't seen it discussed much here, but practicing under the influence can actually be very productive.

In either case, you don't really need a good reason to practice scales. I've been practicing the whole-tone scale lately, among others. I'm not sure if I'll ever find a practical use for it, but it's still good for your finger dexterity and knowledge of your fingerboard.

And +1 for the metronome. Make it your best friend.

[Byzcat]

Originally Posted by Vendele197

+1

I haven't seen it discussed much here, but practicing under the influence can actually be very productive.

Mileage varies a lot on that, actually. I've found it helps, but that's because I'm naturally a very tense person and sometimes need a little help getting into a groove.

And +1 for the metronome. Make it your best friend.

Definitely.

I actually have a very good natural sense of rhythm, and found that the metronome messed with it for a while, but I'm starting to get the hang of it.

I'd rather have a live drummer to practice with, but space is limited and I don't know where I'd store him. Or his kit, for that matter.