Scales&Modes or Scales,Modes&Patterns

[Mr wiggl3s]

My attention span is really dwindling. I'm trying to take lessons again, but it wont happen for a while. In the mean time, which do yall think is better? I'm a novice just learning to read and getting the finger board down. Other then that, my music theory skillz are null.

I'm just looking for something i can run through and play and keep it fresh. These look legit, and will suit my needs, but i don't know which is better. I think the Modes and Patterns one looks better because of the wider range of scales though.

http://www.melbay.com/product.asp?ProductID=95736

http://www.melbay.com/product.asp?ProductID=94695

[MalcolmAmos]

Originally Posted by Mr wiggl3s

My attention span is really dwindling. I'm trying to take lessons again, but it wont happen for a while. In the mean time, which do yall think is better? I'm a novice just learning to read and getting the finger board down. Other then that, my music theory skillz are null. I'm just looking for something i can run through and play and keep it fresh. These look legit, and will suit my needs, but i don't know which is better. I think the Modes and Patterns one looks better because of the wider range of scales though.

IMO - In the early stages yes, everybody needs scales to get the fingers doing what they should do and the ears recognizing the good notes from the bad notes, HOWEVER, chord tones and chord tone interval numbers and the major scale box pattern will get you playing bass to some lead sheet or fake chord sheet music much faster than knowing how to run a scale in all 12 keys.

Course which way you want to go depends on what you want to be doing in 6 months. If you would like to look into the chord tone interval number "thing" here is something that will give you an idea of how that works.

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showth...67#post9372867

Here is an example of what you could do with those chord tone interval numbers;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4x0u...eature=related
Am7 would be R-b3-5-b7
D7 would be R-3-5-b7
GM7 would be R-3-5-b7
Look up the rest using this http://www.smithfowler.org/music/Chord_Formulas.htm



Good luck.

[Staccato]

Add the pentatonic form on the neck, and I, IV, V progressions or similar. Keep it simple, basic, and play along using the form, and the progressions with simpler tunes.

What are popular keys? Probably Bb or or F. And, "A" is a good country key if that's your thing...

[Mr wiggl3s]

Originally Posted by Stacatto

Add the pentatonic form on the neck, and I, IV, V progressions or similar. Keep it simple, basic, and play along using the form, and the progressions with simpler tunes.

What are popular keys? Probably Bb or or F. And, "A" is a good country key if that's your thing...

Dude, i just know the notes and the fingerboard. I have no idea what you're talking about.

[MalcolmAmos]

If you are country.....
Gals sing in A and G
Guys sing in G and D
Some guys with a bass voice sing in E
Congregations sing in F .... check your hymnal, mostly flat keys. Congregations sing flat.
Sissy men and the fat lady that comes out of the audience will request Bb.


Here is your bass scale patterns - for free. Noticed the Pentatonic pattern - the easiest one.
http://www.cyberfretbass.com/scales/basic/page2.php
Red dot is the root note. Place the root note on the E string 3rd fret and G scale notes are waiting on you. Place the root on the E string 5th fret and the A scale notes await. Notice the numbers. These are the fingers you are to use in fretting the strings to get the notes. 1= index, 2= middle, etc. Notice the pattern takes place over 4 frets and you have 4 fingers, yep, kinda important you learn your patterns using all four fingers.

Ask specific questions. You've got enough here to keep you busy for a couple of months.

Have fun.

[fearceol]

Originally Posted by Mr wiggl3s

My attention span is really dwindling. I'm trying to take lessons again, but it wont happen for a while. In the mean time, which do yall think is better? I'm a novice just learning to read and getting the finger board down. Other then that, my music theory skillz are null.

I'm just looking for something i can run through and play and keep it fresh. These look legit, and will suit my needs, but i don't know which is better. I think the Modes and Patterns one looks better because of the wider range of scales though.

http://www.melbay.com/product.asp?ProductID=95736

http://www.melbay.com/product.asp?ProductID=94695

If you are a complete novice then I would not concern myself with modes just yet. Learn the Major scale and where each scale degree is in relation to the root note. As MalcolmAmos says, concentrate on chords and chord tones. Here is a link that explains all about this. It is a great all round site. In the exercises, if you put your mouse arrow over the notes, it gives you the sound of the note. My advice is to go through each section slowly.

http://www.studybass.com/lessons/bass-chord-patterns/

[Staccato]

Okay, thought you might have found the studybass.com website mentions on TB.

Go here, and scroll halfway down. If you've got your laptop, or PC speakers turned up--scroll halfway down the page, and place your mouse over the notes on the neck/scale form-shown to the left.

Do a similar search on the TB search tab for I, IV, V or place those roman numerals+ the word, bass into the google search window, and you'll find quite a bit on the subject through studybass.com, activebass.com. Example, I just found this one searching (I, IV, V bass) on google:
http://www.abclearnguitar.com/blues.html

Except for some theory in my background, I'm prob'ly not much ahead of you on learning bass...